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6max KJs bvb vs LAG 3bet and cbet (defending/exploiting question)

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Whysoseriouz
Joined: 07.05.2011

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NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,480)
BB ($1,550)
UTG ($1,440)
UTG+1 ($1,580)
CO ($1,480)
BTN ($1,470)

Dealt to Hero K♣ J♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $60, BB raises to $160, Hero calls $100

FLOP ($320) 3♠ 8♥ T♠

Hero checks, BB bets $240, Hero folds

BB wins $320

BB i 54/27 in 266 hands. 3bet =19.7% in 76 hands / 3bet in BB is 20% in 26 hands. / cbet is 85% in 26 hands.

vs this type of opp and with KJs i like calling his 3bet, he can have a very wide range and KJs flops pretty well.

How should i defend vs this type of loose player? 4bet pre? donk bet flop? raise or shove flop? with what range?


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Whysoseriouz
Joined: 07.05.2011

afterwards i had similar hand vs same opp, but this time i limped and had plan to c/r flop. turn gave so many draws that i was sure i couldnt get him to fold and i didnt want to play big pot.

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BB ($1,760)
UTG ($1,340)
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BTN ($1,435)

Dealt to Hero 6♠ A♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $25, BB raises to $175, Hero calls $125

FLOP ($350) T♦ 7♦ 6♣

Hero checks, BB checks

TURN ($350) T♦ 7♦ 6♣ 5♣

Hero checks, BB checks

RIVER ($350) T♦ 7♦ 6♣ 5♣ 2♦

Hero checks, BB checks

BB shows K♣ Q♥
(Pre 42%, Flop 25.8%, Turn 13.6%)

Hero shows 6♠ A♣
(Pre 58%, Flop 74.2%, Turn 86.4%)

Hero wins $350


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Both hands seem fine. If blinds were t30 we can take a 4betshove approach with the KJs hand, but at t20 I don't like our risk:reward, despite the pretty +EV nature of the shove.


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Whysoseriouz
Joined: 07.05.2011

can you give me any advice on defending and postflop play vs very loose 3bettors that cbet nearly 100%? i think i should adapt in some way, otherwise i'm being very exploitable.

4betting pre is an option i would consider, but what about postflop? floating ,raising....?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Originally posted by Whysoseriouz
can you give me any advice on defending and postflop play vs very loose 3bettors that cbet nearly 100%? i think i should adapt in some way, otherwise i'm being very exploitable.

4betting pre is an option i would consider, but what about postflop? floating ,raising....?

Because poker is a multistreet game, it is hard to say what we should do with hands like KJ vs 100% cbet, and wide 3bet ranges.

I'll give some examples, provided we know how villain plays the turn (and to some extent the river). The first one is a good default assumption I think

We have fairly deep stacks, villain will barrel scarecards, villain will shut down with air on blank cards, villain will continue with nutted hands on blank cards, our strategy is:

Check/call a lot of flops is good. Basically any flop that's somewhat disconnected is fine, even if we don't have a lot of equity. Check/fold the turn unless we hit a J or a K (in which case we go into check/calldown mode). Bet the river if villain checks back the turn.

Villain barrels all the time! All streets!

Check/call 2 overcards, check/fold turn unless you hit. Check/fold 1 overcard, no overcard spots.

Villain shuts down a lot on the turn. Continues betting his nutted hands:

Check/call nearly any board. Bet river when turn's checked.

Lastly make sure when you do hit top pair against this opponent, you let him continue barreling. Don't check/raise too many flops (JT8 for example would be one where check/raising's fine). Depending on stacksizes you can check/raise your draws.


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