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10 Nl - Qq

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ferrari1f
Joined: 06.11.2013

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2369792
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BB: $10.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 2,2, Hands: 212
Hero (UTG): $10.15 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 3,6, Hands: 198443
MP: $26.04 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 17
CO: $6.32 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 5,5, Hands: 124
BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 7, AF: 2,1, Hands: 227
SB: $14.45 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 71

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q :heart: Q :club:
Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.80, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $1.20

Flop: ($4.15) 6 :spade: 5 :spade: 7 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.32, Hero calls $4.32

Turn: ($12.79) 6 :diamond: (2 players)

River: ($12.79) 8 :diamond: (2 players)

Final Pot: $12.79

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Hero shows Q :heart: Q :club:
CO shows A :diamond: A :heart:
CO wins $12.21
(Rake: $0.58)

Given the stacksizes, OK to stack off ?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey Ferrari1f,

Because we are UTG it's probably going to be a slight mistake to try and get all-in with QQ.

Vs CO 3bet we should generally just flat and go from there.


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ferrari1f
Joined: 06.11.2013

Originally posted by w34z3l
Hey Ferrari1f,

Because we are UTG it's probably going to be a slight mistake to try and get all-in with QQ.

Vs CO 3bet we should generally just flat and go from there.

Yes I fully agree with the first part. I'll take this into consideration in future hands :).

What do we generally do on such a flop ? Check/call ? If we are going to be results-oriented now, it's going to have exactly the same outcome.

Is QQ in this spot (given action and stack size from villain) in our stack-off range ? I guess so, no ?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Btw, please take the comments to mean if villain is 100bb deep.

60bb deep this is likely fine with QQ to 4bet. I missed his stack size.

100bb deep it would depend on opponents cbetting frequencies. Sometimes we can even just x/f flop with an overpair. depending on how tight their range is


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ferrari1f
Joined: 06.11.2013

Originally posted by w34z3l
Btw, please take the comments to mean if villain is 100bb deep.

60bb deep this is likely fine with QQ to 4bet. I missed his stack size.

100bb deep it would depend on opponents cbetting frequencies. Sometimes we can even just x/f flop with an overpair. depending on how tight their range is

To be honest, it surprises me a bit that it is a x/f with an overpair on such a board... Is is not too tight ? Or do you mean that it's specific for these lower limits ? I only loose to AA and KK here, yet 88-JJ can c-bet here... expecting worse hands to call...

My goal is definitely not to stay at 10 NL. I was close to move up to 16 NL but after this session (I really played some C-game today too...) it has to wait a bit... 25 NL is definitely one of my goals for Februari 2014...


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

The comment regarding x/f flop was assuming that villain is 100bb deep and has a very tight 3betting range. (It's often tight in these positions maybe even QQ+/AK).

Some villains will not cbet AK on the flop, so their cbetting range is going to be KK+. Easy to see why it's a fold. If they also cbet all their combos of AK we just about have a x/c flop.


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ferrari1f
Joined: 06.11.2013

Originally posted by w34z3l
The comment regarding x/f flop was assuming that villain is 100bb deep and has a very tight 3betting range. (It's often tight in these positions maybe even QQ+/AK).

Some villains will not cbet AK on the flop, so their cbetting range is going to be KK+. Easy to see why it's a fold. If they also cbet all their combos of AK we just about have a x/c flop.

Ok this makes much more sense.


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