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I think I can fold here, can I?

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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Hand from my folding my way to the top challenge.
Brutale suckout graph here...

According to my rules I had to fold and I did not mind.

What do you guys think? call or fold?
I guess about 25% of the time you must be right to call.

CO: 110 BB (VPIP: 19.33, PFR: 12.55, 3Bet Preflop: 6.51, Hands: 1,515)
Hero (BTN): 172.5 BB
SB: 115 BB (VPIP: 18.45, PFR: 12.02, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 237)
BB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 24.05, PFR: 19.72, 3Bet Preflop: 5.62, Hands: 1,330)
UTG: 103 BB (VPIP: 29.73, PFR: 21.62, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 38)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9♥ T♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BB calls 8 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 3 players) T♥ 5♥ 3♦
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 13.5 BB, BB calls 13.5 BB, fold

Turn: (54.5 BB, 2 players) 8♣
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (54.5 BB, 2 players) 8♠
BB bets 27 BB, fold

BB wins 52.5 BB
Rake paid 2 BB


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lfcmichael
Joined: 30.10.2016

I have to say that I would’ve folded that hand preflop.

As played, I don’t really know how much 8x he should have after cold calling your 3-bet, and calling you on the flop, so it’s a bit of a weird line from villain.


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Yes Preflop fold (or 3bet :f_biggrin:)


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Originally posted by RubbyDubby
Yes Preflop fold (or 3bet :f_biggrin:)

As Michael said fold preflop, shouldnt be in your 3bet range that hand, and yeah easy fold on the river.


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

Terrible hand to be 3betting preflop.

You don't block anything, if he continues, it's 90% of the time with a hand that taints your straight outs.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

What is the purpose of the preflop 3B?
We do not have sample size and info that UTG folds much vs 3B.... so we can safely fold preflop and move on. This way we can avoid awkward situations postflop ( that we got ourselves into :) )


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CucumbaMan
Joined: 13.10.2017

Yes, as the others said no reason to 3bet this preflop.
As played, on the river it is a close one, Villian could easily have AK, AKs, KQs here.


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Fold pre as said before

Fold river as well
UTG has Overpairs and set in his range


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

Hello. Yes as others said, fold preflop and avoid tough spots later.
As played I would fold river.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Super bad preflop 3bet
1) Too many people behind who can cold 4b or overcall
2) T9o is crushed vs any standard UTG opening range

I think on the Flop the best play is to bet 1/3 pot and fold to a raise.
On the River you die to plenty of mid pairs, and you only beat the occasional suited broadway/connector. Tough spot, I think it's a fold with this exact hand cos he has QQ/JJ very often. mid pairs probably check again, and you block 9hXh/99. More inclined to call here with JT/QT


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