[Closed] A7s gutshot

Hi!

Never overlimp when there is 0-1 limper in the game!Stick to the charts it will improve your game big time.A7s is really borderline here and folding is not wrong(at least it lower variance) But if your really trust your postflop edge or that UTG is really bad or that blinds are very tight then raise is o.k. to isolate him.
Standard raise here is A8s+66+ATo+,KQs,KQo

Postflop.... this is really really reaaaaaly bad flop for you multiway. At least one of them connected with this board and wont fold so you will never bluff them out so my line is just c/f( I would actually almost never bluff into 4 op.)

Turn is hard but I put him on two pair+ or maybe good draw if he is really good TAG so I think for 1:7 that is really close as you often has only 4 outs(and that is not enough) I think I fold this but will mark it.

Hello!

I think Dawn pretty much explained this good, but the way you played it, after his raise on the turn, I would just call down. I think that the hands you beat (monster draws, flush draws and worse Ax) give you enough equity to make this call. Donkbet on the river is a bit of advanced line if I remember right so you could easily c/c without any hard feelings. It is a pretty tricky spot whatsoever because if you check, he will still bet if he has two pair or a better hand than you and he might even try to bluff you off the hand with a busted draw. If you donk, he will probably fold busted draws, call with two pair and raise with a better hand. All in all, I believe that c/c might actually be better here as I doubt that you'll lose any value if you do it and you'll pay off a better hand more if you donk.

Now let's see how wrong I am, judge's analysis please :).

Regards,

Primzi

Hmmm, so If you call you plan to calldown. That means you pay 2BB to win 8BB so you need 25% equity for a call here. A Tag preflop range is suited connectors, pockets,suited aces and some broadways here.

By the turn I put him on something like this

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 26,865% 18,655% 16,420% 64,925% Ad7d
Player 2: 73,135% 64,925% 16,420% 18,655% A9s, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, Qh9h, T9s, 98s, KQo

And it is also a question of wheather he will overlimp with A2s-A4s and if he never stupidly slowplays 88,99 and if he is really capable of raising a draw as a semibluff on the turn. Situation is very close indeed....am very interested in other opinions

BTW I didnt include Jx in his range as I assume TAG will alwas raise these on the flop

Imo villain is def limping every weak suited ace so I can't really find a fold here, you have many outs against weird badly played 2 pairs and I find he has a weak ace here really often.

Well played except the terrible flop bet, I bet if I'm last to act in a 3-way pot here and never any other time.

edit: never c/c here, donk is wayyyyyy better

So if I understand this correctly, I should try to see the turn as cheaply as possible?
Thank you all for responses, they are great for me to study!

Hi!

No, you should just c/f this flop. You are often drawing to 4 very dirty outs for your gutshot and will often suffer great reverse implied odds against Qx hands.

Terror... I dont think you have correct odds against his possible two pair combos( A8,AJ,AT you are drawing to 4 outs with great reverse implied odds if you hit 7 or A; JTs is the only hand that is fine for you; T8s,J8s is not in TAGs range).And I wouldnt count on low suited aces too much unless I have a read. Also I think he will much rather call here with them to not isolate himself with seemingly strong hero.

And ofcourse donk river is way better here.Q is almost not in his range and you dont want to see a check behind.