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[Closed] PLO 1k - KK45 ds 4way

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TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

again plo 1k on party. the table played rly extremily aggressively preflop. im used to hu aggression, but im not used to all that squeezing and stuff.

here i thought - although he played aggr vs 1 opponent pre - he must have a rly strong hand like AA** ds or AKJT ds cuz he squeezes vs the field and he should know if i call, everybody else calls as well.

he played 40/30/11 over 100 hands. he also sat at 2k and 5k, so i guess he is pretty good :f_biggrin:

whats my line? shove pre? or call, knowing that my other friends behind will def also call given odds and maybe somebody even wants to gamboooool and ships it.
on the flop, even if i know he has AA** often, i have to shove given my 15 nut outs.

Party Poker $1000.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players

BTN: $1862.00
SB: $1295.00
BB: $1789.00
UTG: $1208.75
Hero (CO): $1080.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is CO with 4♦ K♠ K♦ 5♠
1 fold, Hero raises to $30, BTN calls $30, SB calls $25, BB raises to $150, Hero calls $120, BTN calls $120, SB calls $120

Flop: ($600.00) 7♣ 3♦ A♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $430.00, Hero raises to $930.50, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $500.50

Turn: ($2461.00) 2♣ (2 players)

River: ($2461.00) 4♠ (2 players)

Final Pot: $2461.00


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

on the flop, even if i know he has AA** often, i have to shove given my 15 nut outs.

Of course if you KNOW he has AA then the correct play is to check call flop and stack off on turn if board doesn't pair. That said obviously this isn't the correct play in this case.

He can be squeezing with double suited rundowns, AAxx AKKx etc but yes it's good to give his 3 bet some respect. That said, you're not making a mistake to 4 bet here either in a game where nobody folds. Double suited kings will always have reasonable equity in a shove fest (you'll almost always get out in equity what you put in in dollars barring some sick set up where someone else has KK and both your flush draws are covered).

On the flop every single one of your outs is to the nuts which is why either raising or calling is fine. You don't have a problem with other people coming along for the ride as they aren't hurting your equity much at all.

So if you're playing with all regs I don't think it's a bad idea to 4 bet preflop for metagame reasons, you get some dead money in the pot and you're not always up against aces so you're going to have decent equity vs range.

I'm not sure a really good player 3 bets aces from the BB here unless super connected, it's more likely a rundown of some sort for me.

Post flop it's impossible to play this hand wrong so long as you don't fold. :)