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[Closed] fold JJ on the flop

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$0.05/$0.1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with J:s, J:h.
UTG1 folds, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 3-Bets, 5 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.4 SB) 7:h, Q:s, K:s (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero folds, MP2 gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: 4.2 BB.
thats one hand, and this one please i just dont know where should i stop raising, happen yesterday too

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$0.05/$0.1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A:s, A:d.
UTG2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.4 SB) 8:c, 8:h, J:c (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.2 BB) 5:c (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.2 BB) Q:s (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.2 BB.
Results follow:

Hero shows two pairs, aces and eights(A:s A:d).
MP2 shows three of a kind, eights(4:d 8:d).

MP2 wins with three of a kind, eights(4:d 8:d).

I'm just starting playing fixed limit, so please dont be nice xD thanks


1 reply
Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi and wellcome!

pls just 1 hand per thread since its much easier to judge...thx

hand 1)

Is there any reason to donk this flop.Since MP2 is a preflop agressor you should basically allways check here regardless of what you have. In this case flop is actually very nasty since MP2(who is 3betting your already strong UTG2 range) is obviously strong and most of his hands have you beat.However you still hold good backdoor draws+still beat some AJs,TT,99,... so for 1:8,5 you should not fold right away.The only correct way to play the flop is c/c and then fold turn when you dont improve.
Donk is really bad here as it will lead you into even more troubles in a bigger pot.

hand 2)

Preflop,flop are very standard and so is turn valuebet. When raised on this ugly card it sure is unpleasant but getting 1:8 you will still often enough see some semibluffs or Jx or just whatever so calldown is fine.
River is really interesting and you should valuebet here against unknown.These guys dont c/r river often enough to be scared of an 8 right away, on the other hand his play looks perfectly like Jx that got scared of the situation.If he makes a c/r I bite my tounge and make a crying call.The may be irrational or just overplay QJ,Qx but make sure you take a note.