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[Closed] 0.05/0.1 big loss analysis

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Hi,

I was looking for an analysis of my big losing hands. Despite apparently playing optimally (atleast according to the Pokertablerankings grader) I'm nevertheless down, mostly because of these suck outs. I was looking for some advice about what I did wrong, or whether this is just the natural variance of poker:

The MP2 was a very aggressive player who I noticed would actively push just about anything that was mid/top pair and above. Had VPP of ~50!

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP3$9.62:///////;CO$10.00:///////;BU$11.00:///////;SB$2.60:///////;BB (Hero)$9.85:///////;MP1$4.00:///////;MP2$9.69:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2:h, 2:c.
MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.65) 2:d, 9:d, T:c (3 players)
Hero bets $0.62, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $1.24, Hero raises to $3.00, MP2 raises to $4.76, Hero calls $1.76.

Turn: ($10.17) 8:s (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 raises to $4.73, Hero calls $4.73.

River: ($19.63) 7:s (2 players)

Final Pot: $19.63.
Results follow:

Hero shows three of a kind, twos(2:h 2:c).
MP2 shows a straight, jack high(T:h J:d).

MP2 wins with a straight, jack high(T:h J:d).

Was looking at it with the Equilab, after the flop I had a ~90% probability of winning, dunno if that factors into your advice ;)

Thanks!


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Don't look at individual outcomes,you had that guy crushed,keep it up and you will be fine.
You should have raised more on the turn and push all-in against another raise.


Hello!
Fistly, don't look the grader of pokertablerating, I can say that this is a total nonsense, it calculates your average of something etc. not your game style, by this don't definitely build up your game, I haven't watched my game analyse from there, but at the moment I did this because of your post, they rank my game there:

NL25FR
PRE-FLOP TIGHTNESS: You are 9% tighter than optimal. Good Work! A - Im 16/14 and i think overall they have right, but they dont count, i play 24tables and im sure, for this its absolutley optimal for best $/h
PRE-FLOP AGGRESSION You are 8% more aggressive than optimal. Good Work! A - I'm quite passive in preflop, 3b should defiintely be bigger and so on.
FLOP AGGRESSIONYou are 20% more aggressive than optimal. Be somewhat less aggressive. C+ - I'm sure that my flop agression is excactly just like it has to be, for sure I can't be more passive there.
TURN AGGRESSIONYou are 4% more aggressive than optimal. Good Work! A+ - I agree
RIVER AGGRESSIONYou are 12% more aggressive than optimal. Be a little less aggressive. B+ - absolutely wrong, I'm very passive in river again since I play in 24 tables, surely the most optimal should be more agressive than I am.
SHOWDOWN FREQUENCYYou showdown 22% less often than optimal. See more showdowns. C+ - I agree.

What I want to say, is this, that according to this you can't build up your game, for example, I have found a very good and useful style for myself, which I think is the most optimal (especially for masstabling) to make the maximum $/h, if I would change my game according to their recommendations, I would mess up my game plan totally - snd this style would be wrong. I think they take some average statistics of winning players and build up this way "an optimal game"

Now to the hand:
Preflop: call is surely the best thing here to be done, there is no other chance
Flop: DON'T SLOWPLAY, for sure raise him to all in, he has already shown a great agression, he doesn't fold here anymore, we have nuts, we wat to get the stack in here, this is a VERY drawheavy board, and there are very very many turn cards which we don't like
Turn: As played, call

Generally: NL10 is not a place where to slowplay and make some tricky game, just play for value.


Ah i see. Ok, I won't slow play anything else then at these low stakes! Thanks!!