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[Closed] KK 3 way being donked into

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Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($100)
BB ($100) VP:24*PFR:21/AF:4.1/WTSD:26/donk:28
UTG ($71.52) VP:45/PFR:8/AF:1.6/WTSD:17
Hero ($137)
BTN ($326)

Dealt to Hero K♦ K♠

UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4, fold, fold, BB calls $3, UTG calls $3

FLOP ($12.50) J♣ 2♥ 8♣

BB bets $8, UTG calls $8, Hero calls $8

TURN ($36.50) J♣ 2♥ 8♣ A♦

BB bets $24.50, UTG raises to $59.52 (AI), Hero folds, BB calls $35.02

RIVER ($155) J♣ 2♥ 8♣ A♦ 3♥

Not really sure if I should raise that flop.
If UTG folds on turn what should I do?


5 replies

I would raise/fold flop vs BB and probably raise/call vs UTG.
It'll be hard if BB calls but I think he'll most time play 3b or fold, he doesn't really get price to pay for FD.


BReWs7aR
Joined: 26.03.2007

Yeah raising the flop to get BB fold and utg call seems fine. I think if this scenario occur I would almost everytime ship that turn because of so many Draws. You definitely get calls of worse hands there.


Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

I don't like the raise/Fold here. Also because BB might shove with FD.
To me if I raise I should call a shove, if I fold I'd rather just call and keep his bluffs in.

If BB was the fish and UTG the reg I would def raise/call here but when I get donked by the reg 3 way it's a different story.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Well the problem with calling is that it's going to be very hard to get to SD and there are tons of scarecards.
Also you miss out on value vs the fish.

So I'm also raising the flop for value.
If BB shoves I'm folding because I'd expect him to call the NFD to keep the fish in the pot and probably he's not getting it in with worse FDs because our range looks so strong.
If UTG calls it's closer, but I'm probably calling because even though sets are in his range, so is a lot of other stuff.


Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

Originally posted by Bierbaer
If BB shoves I'm folding because I'd expect him to call the NFD to keep the fish in the pot

This. Makes sense now to raise and fold to bb shove