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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Villain = 42/0/0/36/77 hands

BTW I was only playing this HU since the table broke from 4 to 2 quickly and then i got dealt QQ.

Flop: Obviously he is calling very wide pre so i give him something like:

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Board: 8♦6♦5♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
BU     24.07%  23.28%   0.79% { 55+, A2s+, K4s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T7s+, 98s, A5o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }
BB     75.93%  75.14%   0.79% { QdQc }

when he raises I would expect him to do this w/ TP, Overpair, pair and a draw, OESD and weaker FD's

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Board: 8♦6♦5♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
BU     40.82%  39.97%   0.85% { KK+, JJ-99, QhQs, 8h8s, 8h8c, 8s8c, 7d7h, 7d7s, 7d7c, 6h6s, 6h6c, 6s6c, 5h5s, 5h5c, 5s5c, AdKd, AdJd, KdJd, AdTd, KdTd, JdTd, Ad9d, Kd9d, Jd9d, Td9d, Ad7d, Kd7d, Jd7d, Td7d, Ad4d, Kd4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AdKh, AdKs, AdKc, AhKd, AsKd, AcKd, AdQh, AdQs, AdJh, AdJs, AdJc, AhJd, AsJd, AcJd, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, AhTd, AsTd, AcTd, Ad9h, Ad9s, Ad9c, Ah9d, As9d, Ac9d, Ad8h, Ad8s, Ad8c, Ad7h, Ad7s, Ad7c, Ah7d, As7d, Ac7d, Ad6h, Ad6s, Ad6c, Ad5h, Ad5s, Ad5c, KdQh, KdQs, KdJh, KdJs, KdJc, KhJd, KsJd, KcJd, KdTh, KdTs, KdTc, KhTd, KsTd, KcTd, Kd9h, Kd9s, Kd9c, Kh9d, Ks9d, Kc9d, Kd8h, Kd8s, Kd8c, QhJd, QsJd, QhTd, QsTd, Qh9d, Qs9d, JdTh, JdTs, JdTc, JhTd, JsTd, JcTd, Jd9h, Jd9s, Jd9c, Jh9d, Js9d, Jc9d, Td9h, Td9s, Td9c, Th9d, Ts9d, Tc9d }
BB     59.18%  58.33%   0.85% { QdQc }

I would imagine he is raise/broke and not raise fold with this range so I figured it should be fine to get it in here?

equity required to call

Obviously when I 3b I commit my entire stack so should it be?

E*=5.82/(5.82*2+.48) = 5.82/12.12 = 0.480*100 = 48%

So only if he only ever does this with K-hi FD and sets does it start looking ugly:

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Board: 8♦6♦5♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
BU     52.88%  52.20%   0.68% { AdAh, AdAs, AdAc, KdKh, KdKs, KdKc, 8h8s, 8h8c, 8s8c, 7d7h, 7d7s, 7d7c, 6h6s, 6h6c, 6s6c, 5h5s, 5h5c, 5s5c, AdKd, AdJd, KdJd, AdTd, KdTd, JdTd, Ad9d, Kd9d, Jd9d, Td9d, Ad7d, Kd7d, Jd7d, Td7d, Ad4d, Kd4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AdKh, AdKs, AdKc, AhKd, AsKd, AcKd, AdQh, AdQs, AdJh, AdJs, AdJc, AhJd, AsJd, AcJd, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, AhTd, AsTd, AcTd, Ad9h, Ad9s, Ad9c, Ah9d, As9d, Ac9d, Ad8h, Ad8s, Ad8c, Ad7h, Ad7s, Ad7c, Ah7d, As7d, Ac7d, Ad6h, Ad6s, Ad6c, Ad5h, Ad5s, Ad5c, KdQh, KdQs, KdJh, KdJs, KdJc, KhJd, KsJd, KcJd, KdTh, KdTs, KdTc, KhTd, KsTd, KcTd, Kd9h, Kd9s, Kd9c, Kh9d, Ks9d, Kc9d, Kd8h, Kd8s, Kd8c }
BB     47.12%  46.43%   0.68% { QdQc }

I am eager to see whether my estimation ranges here are correct or at least slightly sensible.

Pacific Poker - $0.06 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $6.06
SB: $6.17

SB posts SB $0.03, Hero posts BB $0.06

Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero has Q♣ Q♦

SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.24, SB calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.48, 2 players) 8♦ 6♦ 5♦
Hero bets $0.36, SB raises to $0.84, Hero raises to $3.00, SB raises to $5.93, Hero calls $2.82

Turn: ($12.12, 2 players) 7♣

River: ($12.12, 2 players) J♣

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♣ Q♦ (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 80%, Flop 35%, Turn 30%)
SB shows 6♥ 6♣ (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 20%, Flop 65%, Turn 70%)
SB wins $11.52


2 replies
veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello muel294,

I really doubt that you getting that kind of equity against that kind of loose-passive guy. We most likely can exclude a lot of hands there while I don't think that he is playing very aggressively with his draws. Loose-passive should say anything about his raising range as well, doubt that it's K:dX hand and so on...

Therefore my line would be rather Call his raise on flop and reevaluate it on further streets unless I have any other reads on the opponent that he is really a maniac. Don't think that there is even any point to look into the detailed equity calculations here.

Best regards.


sp00nman
Joined: 14.01.2009

We basically took away our positional advantage by shoving it on the flop and did our opponent a favor of neutralizing that advantage. We had the initative and position and should have maximized both. He is very passive and his aggression meant that he has us beat. I think we were better off calling the raise and see if he continues his aggression on turn and river. We should be ready to make an awful laydown though.