Please Comment on my play (better to minR?) and on BBs call. Thanks.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $600(BB) Replayer
SB ($8,010)
BB ($1,850)
Hero ($8,330)
BTN ($1,810)
Dealt to Hero A♣ K♣
Hero raises to $8,330 (AI), fold, fold, BB calls $1,250 (AI)
FLOP ($4,000) 4♥ 4♦ 6♠
TURN ($4,000) 4♥ 4♦ 6♠ 9♥
RIVER ($4,000) 4♥ 4♦ 6♠ 9♥ 8♣
BB shows 9♠ Q♦
(Pre 33%, Flop 22.0%, Turn 86.4%)
Hero shows A♣ K♣
(Pre 67%, Flop 78.0%, Turn 13.6%)
BB wins $4,000
Shove and minraise-fold versus SB are both ok. Depends of SB bubble approach.
BB call is bit too loose. Though he cannot be that picky with this stack setup.
PS: First misread that SB called somehow ♦
I tend to get mixed responses here when i talk to others about minraising or shoving these spots. I suppose you can look at it like you did in this hand when it might increase FE :
....but i also find that a shove can look weak too, and also invoke a similar response from a villain with marginal holdings. I guess either way you tend to get almost the same result.
I was given a guide which deals directly with calling 10bb/7.5bb/5bb shoves (pivot points i think they are called) from BB based on both good/bad players which actually has this hand in the range. I would be happy to share with you.
Originally posted by kolonel71
I tend to get mixed responses here when i talk to others about minraising or shoving these spots. I suppose you can look at it like you did in this hand when it might increase FE :....but i also find that a shove can look weak too, and also invoke a similar response from a villain with marginal holdings. I guess either way you tend to get almost the same result.
I was given a guide which deals directly with calling 10bb/7.5bb/5bb shoves (pivot points i think they are called) from BB based on both good/bad players which actually has this hand in the range. I would be happy to share with you.
awesome mate! add me on Skype and within a few days we could sweat? I'll PM you about time/date.
i think that if our plan is to MR/fold to the SB (and folding is the best play if he shoves), then this is a clearly open shove.
if he wakes up with KK AA, sucks, but it's a 1500 or something like that pot, and that's a lot of chips, and we have a great hand
Originally posted by ghaleon
Shove and minraise-fold versus SB are both ok. Depends of SB bubble approach.
this - if he's aggressive and knows of bubble risk aversion, we open shove to avoid having to r/f this hand
Originally posted by inlovewithamsterdam
Originally posted by ghaleon
Shove and minraise-fold versus SB are both ok. Depends of SB bubble approach.this - if he's aggressive and knows of bubble risk aversion, we open shove to avoid having to r/f this hand
Agree totally depends on SB's expected play.
Also pivot points that Colonel was talking about can be very useful, recommended
