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Over aggressive with JJ?

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netrogrant
Joined: 23.05.2011

Known Players:
[tg]Position_Stack: hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;UTG3_1660:///////;MP1_1231:///////;MP2_3040:///////;MP3_2310:///////;CO_1267:///////;BU_1320:///////;Hero_1137:///////;BB_1535:///////;[/tg]
SnG-MTT $ 1.50 (9 Players)
25/50 No-Limit Hold'em (8 Players)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.106.50109.2 by www.pokerstrategy.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with J :spade:, J :club:
UTG3 raises 50 to 100, 5 fold,
Hero raises 200 to 300, BB folds, UTG3 calls

Flop: (650) Q :heart:, 4 :spade:, 2 :heart: (2 Players)
Hero bets 300, UTG3 calls

Turn: (1250) T :club: (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG3 checks

River: (1250) K :heart: (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG3 checks

Final Pot: 1250

Results follow (Highlight to see):
Hero shows a pair of jacks (Js, Jc) --> (Js, Jc, Qh, Tc, Kh)
UTG3 shows a pair of kings (As, Ks) --> (Kh, Ks, Qh, Tc, As)

UTG3 wins 1250 with a pair of kings (As, Ks) --> (Kh, Ks, Qh, Tc, As)

Ok so i re-raise really to just test what he's holding as alot of players play really loose at these limits (if he had 4-bet i would have folded). It also served my double purpose of hitting the flop with initiative. I cbet the flop, which was called - and from there on out i played defensively, not wanting to double barrel.

My thought process was that he would have 4-bet with AA, KK or QQ so i probably had a slight edge over him, thinking he had perhaps AQo or AJ or such, when he called my cbet i had him on AQ hence the defensive play. when he checked the turn after me i thought he was setting me up to bluff him on the river and when he checked the river after me i was thoroughly confused.

Do you think i should avoid playing this aggressively pre-flop and turn this early in the tournament? How was my cbet sizing, bit small? Should i have maybe made it 2/3 pot?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

If you 3bet you should be ready to call his shove. 3bet-fold is pretty horrible. Especially when you put already over 1/4 of your stack on table :)

In flop cbet is good and plan should be to call if he shove. In turn shove. You only have ~500 left so take value from draws and he can call with weaker made hands as well.


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masfe
Joined: 27.01.2007

i always call/shove pre-flop. folding seems too weak, but if he is nitty it's ok to fold.

as played, i would make that cbet larger to make sure i commit myself to the pot, and shove every turn with that stack


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by ghaleon
If you 3bet you should be ready to call his shove. 3bet-fold is pretty horrible. Especially when you put already over 1/4 of your stack on table :)

In flop cbet is good and plan should be to call if he shove. In turn shove. You only have ~500 left so take value from draws and he can call with weaker made hands as well.

This is perfect.


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