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$3 45 man bubble shove

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Is this a spot where I can shove a bit wider than wizz says due to blinds hitting me soon and having good fe on BB stack.

Hand Information
PokerStars No Limit,400, 800 BB 50 (9 handed).
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Table Information
Seat: 1 Player 1 ($5052)
Seat: 2 Player 2 ($23682) Dealer
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($3704) Small Blind
Seat: 4 Player 4 ($5743) Big Blind
Seat: 5 Player 5 ($4296)
Seat: 6 Hero ($3868)
Seat: 7 Player 7 ($5660)
Seat: 8 Player 8 ($7827)
Seat: 9 Player 9 ($7668)

Dealt to Hero
T♠: K♣:

Preflop (Pot:1650)
Player 5 FOLD
Hero ALL-IN
Player 7 FOLD
Player 8 FOLD
Player 9 FOLD
Player 1 FOLD
Player 2 CALL $3818
Player 3 FOLD
Player 4 FOLD

Flop(Pot: $9336)


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Bzzz2906
Joined: 10.03.2010

Fold. You're UTG and when you get call, you're in bad shape with KTo.

18.9%, 44+ A2s+ A9o+ K9s+ KJo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+ T9s

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Icm does not take into account that I hit the blinds next and pretty much lose my fe after that, hence the question of should I shove wider than icm says.


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Bzzz2906
Joined: 10.03.2010

You prefer lose your chips to lose your fold equity ?


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If this was as easy as pumping the numbers into nash then we would all be millionares, nobody is calling correctly in a $3 sng. I was hoping for a discussion on the pros and cons of this shove. Even nash is saying KJo is a shove so saying people are calling tighter on the bubble the BB's stack dictates that he cannot call us wide and the blinds hitting us next hand are a pretty decent argument for shoving, the cons are if we bust we have no equity in the tournament, we don't double our equity by doubling up and the sb is super short and may feel like a gamble if he doesn't understand icm. I am not saying shoving is right but for you to say ir's black and white because nash says so is a very blinkered point of view imo.


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Atoks
Joined: 01.06.2008

This is not a simple situation. However on the micros it is best to play mathematically correct as other players are weak enough to bust their stacks, no matter how much bigger those stacks are compared to yours. It sucks to fold but in this spot on these limits I think folding should win u more money than shoving would in the long run.


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