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Zhusy
Joined: 17.01.2010

220€ Live tournament 10k guarantee. 9 people FR.

A hand has been bugging me a lot. I didn't find a live tournament section so I hope I can post it here?

Anyway yesterday on day 1 I had a few very bad plays on my part so I want some opinions.

Hand 1:

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HERO button, LA DONK raise MIDpos 4x (as usual) I have 3bet him 5-6 times so far he folded 4times.

So:

DONK MIDpos raise 4x, range ~50%.
Hero SB QQ - I 3bet him a lot so for some reason I made a call here, wanted max value of his random rubbish, although I was OOP. + I have few reads on him.
BB calls.

FLOP: K :heart: Q :club: 2 :spade:

Hero checks, BB checks, DONK checks (1st time WTF)?!?

Turn: 2 :heart:

Hero checks (lol), BB bets 2/3pot, MP3 calls, now my question raise or flat and give them a card? And what to do on the river?

Please don't comment the "bad" play pre-flop with flating I have my reasons.

We both had ~100BBs. BB ~45BBs

Hand 2:

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MP2 (LA good player) raise 2,5X, hero BU call 6 :club: 4 :club: call.
SB, BB folds.

Flop 4 :diamond: 4 :spade: J :diamond:

MP2 bets 2/3, hero raise?
I raised, MP2 calls.

Turn: 8 :diamond:

MP2 checks, hero bets 2/4 pot, MP2 raise x3.5 bet.(my read on him said it wasn't a bluff but lets say I had no reads, hero WTF?!)

The raise was kinda too much for a "made" hand?

We were both ~90BBs

Today is day 2 I hope I won't make retarded mistakes like yesterday.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

#1 after u flat pre i lead flop 100% here it looks weak and u would be called or raise bluf a ton
as played raise turn AINEC

#2 i would ch/ behind turn 50% of time read/player dependent


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

yeah i wouldn't lead the flop hand 1, i think i lead the turn for value but check/raising is fine also especially if they don't think you ever have a 2 ever, so they never fold a k ever.

clear fold turn to the c/r on hand 2. you need some specific reads to justify raising flop there because it makes him fold way too mcuh imo, and you get to raise him on the turn anyway if he has Jx. i would also fold or 3bet this preflop, but then again i am probably flatting 65s always, so if you think he's particularly bad/blinds are bad/blinds are passive, then it's fine. i am 0% checking behind the turn in hand 2


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

chenny8888 why u think ch behind in #2 is bad?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

we want to at least TRY to get 3 streets from pair + :diamond: combinations. if not, getting flop and turn is easier than flop and river on most board runouts


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