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97o 3bet IP vs aggressive UTG OR

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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

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NL Holdem $4,000(BB) Replayer
SB ($456,422)
BB ($61,066)
UTG ($238,354)
UTG+1 ($102,602)
UTG+2 ($156,914)
MP1 ($77,600)
MP2 ($153,816)
CO ($269,592)
Hero ($220,712)

Dealt to Hero 9♦ 7♠

UTG raises to $8,000, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $18,236, fold, fold, UTG calls $10,236

FLOP ($46,072) 2♥ 5♥ K♣

UTG bets $8,000, Hero raises to $27,825, UTG calls $19,825

TURN ($101,722) 2♥ 5♥ K♣ Q♣

UTG checks, Hero bets $48,257, UTG calls $48,257

RIVER ($198,236) 2♥ 5♥ K♣ Q♣ J♠

UTG bets $60,000, Hero folds

UTG wins $198,236

Hi all.

The preflop raiser is something like 35/20 with 33% UTG OR for around 100 hands sample.

I decide to 3bet pre with that hand, which is questionable, but Im generally playing pretty tight and I think Its not that bad. Also I dont think that kind of player is capable of folding much pre.

On the flop I dont think he is strong with that min-bet, and decide to raise it with the idea to bet the turn and river at specific cards. What do You guys think? I think the sizing could be smaller.

Queen on the turn is OK card I guess, cuz I think he is folding all of his middle/bottom pairs on second barrel. He doesnt have alot of queens in his range I guess, unless some QhXh. But I might chase em off with third barrel.

Also I think He will fold alot of his Kx, except KQ, and maybe AK if he plays it this way.

Jack on the river seems to be one of the worst cards of the deck, and Im wondering would it be profitable to shove here? He is not folding KJ/AhTh/QhJh/AK(maybe?).

Which cards would be good to shove on?


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Lindberg789
Joined: 10.04.2009

U say u don't think he is capable of folding much pre, then don't 3bet unless for value. And if he indeed is some kind of station this is not the opponent u want to bluff, just abc value bet him to death.


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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

I dont know If he is a calling station or not Im just saying that, he might call a little bit wider than a "normal" reg. in that spot.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I like all of postflop. Preflop is debatable. On the one hand we want to loosen our range against someone who has 33% open from early positions, that is for sure. On the other hand we need to think about whether we want to widen our range for value (villain call pre, call post too often), or polarise our range more (villain call pre, fold post too often). Without more information I think we can assume the 2nd one (remember it's hard for villains to make hands), so I am fine with having hands like 97o in my preflop 3bet bluff range.


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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

Which cards would be best to 3barrel shove the river if He checks to me? I guess the Jack isnt one of them?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

i think the turn barrel is very very profitable / lots of fold equity vs the hands we have any chance of folding out at any time. so because of that i do not like 3 barreling almost any river. i literally cannot think of a river i'd barrel.... maybe an ace if he's bad?


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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

Dont you think that if he is holding something like KT/KJ, he's might call the second barrel but fold to 3rd one, cuz we show alot of strength?


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by noob3r
Dont you think that if he is holding something like KT/KJ, he's might call the second barrel but fold to 3rd one, cuz we show alot of strength?

No imo


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Originally posted by TheRebuz

Originally posted by noob3r
Dont you think that if he is holding something like KT/KJ, he's might call the second barrel but fold to 3rd one, cuz we show alot of strength?

No imo

Agreed, and it's ambitious to try get him to fold. Especially when he can quite easily have two pair.


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