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0,15/0,3 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.49 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with K♥, Q♥
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6,5 SB) A♣, T♠, J♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (4,2 BB) 4♠ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

River: (12,2 BB) J♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

value bet?
Final Pot: 16,2 BB


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Sure, but you forgot about value 3Bet :)


You know that feeling, when all morning i got suckouts on the river. I was pretty sure he had a FH, so didn't want to loose more.... really all big hands went to opponent's staks...


It's a tilt, you either stop playing or continue playing like you should play, not paying attention to any suckouts and not changing they way you play your hands (the way they should be played).


to topic update
guess what killed me his one outer :/// i think i should stop playing.
I hope tonight will be fish night, so will wait to midnight and try to calm down.

0,15/0,3 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.49 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with J♣, J♥. CO posts a blind of $0,2.
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO checks, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8,5 SB) J♦, 2♥, 9♦ (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 folds, CO checks, Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: (5,2 BB) 2♣ (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls.

River: (13,2 BB) 2♦ (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls.

Final Pot: 21,2 BB


Yeah, you should surely do.

as for the hand, you went crazy on the river, while you should've payed attention to his sudden activity on "blank" turn, after which he donked the river.
He has 99 or 2x (92). Statistically, since three 2 are on the board, 99 are more probable, but he didn't raised preflop, so 2x seems to be the only possible here. Just "crying" call the river donk.


If he 3-bet the turn then river couldn't help him anymore, maybe he has Jx something like AJ which i beat on the river. Also he could had 9x many hands are possible, Over pairs QQ,KK,TT maybe lower.

On this limit believe me i see so many 'interesting' plays, like capping on the river with one pair. When one card to str8 left.


Also what i should add some ppl limp with their big hand AK,AA,KK,QQ and passively slowplay them.


Sure, if you have such reads on particular opponent you can be more aggresive with your monster against him. But still there's no cap for you on river, only call his 3bet.


If it was 0.25/0.50 i of course would have given him credit for four of kind.


There's not too much difference between 0.15/0.30 and 0.25/0.50 and even 0.50/1, so it's just a matter of reads you have on this particular opponent.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

I think the first hand is pretty close but I wouldn't 3-bet either. The river is pretty bad for you, but you have to make a valuebet. Any set he had is now a FH and beats you, and I think he will cap the turn with a set most of the times, or AJ, but that beats you aswell.

In the 2nd hand I think I would call the 3-bet, you have to raise here with the 2nd nuts. If he has a 2 then you're unlucky, but you will lose too much value if you don't raise here.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

There is no use in using that database. The files are over 3 months old, so almost nobody will still play 0.25/0.50 after that long time.

But if you want to do it with another DB. Just download the file and extract it in the hand history folder, then let Elephant import.


I agree with Yoghi (Löw ^^) .

1) There is no need to 3-bet the river as you either split or you lose against a fullhouse. I can't see him check/raising here with anything worse.

2) I wouldn't give him an overpair ever. He either has 99 or x2 (if he is no maniac or somone on tilt) so you have to the river raise is close but I would do it anyway.


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

1) i wouldn´t 3-bet the river. maybe i´m just too weak again but his check/raise shows quite some strengh after the turn cap... i can´t see you being ahead very often

//edit: -.- too late

//edit2:

Originally posted by ciRith
I agree with Yoghi (Löw ^^) .

plz die ^^