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54$ 5max HU q4s

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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $150(BB) Replayer
Hero ($4,540)
($5,460)

Dealt to Hero 4♣ Q♣

raises to $300, Hero calls $150

FLOP ($600) 5♣ 7♣ 7♥

Hero checks, bets $300, Hero raises to $900, raises to $1,500, Hero raises to $4,240 (AI), calls $2,740

TURN ($9,080) 5♣ 7♣ 7♥ 9♠

RIVER ($9,080) 5♣ 7♣ 7♥ 9♠ 5♠

Hero shows 4♣ Q♣
(Pre 55%, Flop 77.5%, Turn 22.7%)

shows T♣ 9♣
(Pre 45%, Flop 22.5%, Turn 77.3%)

wins $9,080

Villain is a reg, I think def. a good one. No history of me flatting pre w these stack sizes. What hands would u flat- his stats are 61/49/65-SB steal/23.6 3bet/6.0-agg.f-285 hands. Also, given that we need to bluff c/r some boards with our hand to make it a profitable call pre- what would be those boards.

As played what do you think of his line? Standard?


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this is on the marginal side but acceptable imo. include some pre-flop 3bets as well to counter.

you cant really bluff c/r this board you dont rep anything! (its fine to c/r/4b though ! like you did) i usually just give up these boards (when i flop nothing) because you get exploited easily if you reverse float. if you c/c with A high type hands you have to be prepared to c/c a lot of turns because a good player will 2 barrel often in tihs spot.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

ofc, this is not a good board c/r bluff as I don't rep much, I am asking what type of boards will you c/r as a bluff if we flat with Q4s, 56s type of hands pre?


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i wouldnt flat low SCs (because the pair value isnt very good), i prefer to 3bet those. i would flat like 89s/T9s.

anyway, c/r bluff middle connected boards that you can represent.

QJx , QTx, 89J, KJ9 .. etc


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

What would be your line on KJ9 board if u hold JT or k5s? c/c with both hands, I assume? So what do we rep if we c/r beside draws?

Not sure how it is in your games, but I can assure here on ongame, a huge load of 54$s reg love to flat pre with these low suited kings, queens, JTo type of hands for 20bb+ effective.

What would be your line on KJ9ss if you hold A9 or JT? would u bet or check behind vs a reg? Cuz by checking we kind of give him the info of what we have, so then we have to be prepared to call down some turns/rivers, I assume? If we bet and get c/r what do we do?


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in the BB i would c/r top pairs and c/c 2nd pairs mostly, being prepared to c/r/go broke with top pair + on this wet board. (as you can see its easy to rep a merged range on these boards).

as the BTN its easy to check back 100% of your range on these boards because if you raise 70% and the BB flats you will just give up without a cbet on these boards a LOT because those boards SMACK their flatting range hard. so you can easily check back all pairs then call the turn and evaluate the river. i would usually want to bet really strong top pairs + (kind of unbalanced i guess) but i think people usually expect you to cbet so often that they dont realise i just give up a ton on these boards with my air.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Yeah, I don't think it matters if your ch/R reps many draws and only a few nutted 2pair combos. B/c villain has to have a hand to do something about it. It's not like if villain cbets 54o on the KJ9 and gets check/raised he thinks you have mainly draws and ships over the top.

As you see from the hand posted, the main reason villain was able to do something about your ch/R on this paired bd (knowing you often have air) is b/c he has a draw himself. I expect he 3bs this flop far less often without that as backup


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