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x3mwisp
Joined: 31.03.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($17.38)
Hero ($25.42)
UTG ($39.74)
UTG+1 ($21.25)
CO ($12.96)
BTN ($133)

Dealt to Hero T♦ A♦

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, fold, fold, SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.50

FLOP ($3) K♠ T♥ T♣

SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG+1 calls $2, SB folds

TURN ($7) K♠ T♥ T♣ 5♦

Hero bets $5, UTG+1 calls $5

RIVER ($17) K♠ T♥ T♣ 5♦ 9♠

Hero bets $17.42 (AI), UTG+1 folds

Hero shows T♦ A♦

Hero wins $16.24

villain: 33/17/38a%/36wtsd/60h
i just saw he has bet river 63 but irrelevant cause sample s.
So I kinda don't get these spots. If i push it might be too thin, if i bet smaller i'm afraid of getting raised 2 much and having to fold. Or is it just me? Should bet 1/3 of pot?
Also does ch/c here make any sense rly?


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BadeaCelRau
Joined: 15.10.2010

I think he's folding K or weaker T so it's a profitable shove. Slightly bigger bets (like 2.25 and 6 on turn because he has no folding range on that 5) result in a below pot bet on the river which is very 'shovable' :) imo.


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BruceLee89
Joined: 28.09.2009

I don't like the preflop action, I think you should choos between 4bet or fold. On the flop you should bet bigger because our idea is to bet/bet/push and with your bet sizes it's ok but it could be better; furthermore every time the utg folds the river at least we've taken more money on the flop and on the turn.


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x3mwisp
Joined: 31.03.2009

Originally posted by BruceLee89
I don't like the preflop action, I think you should choos between 4bet or fold. On the flop you should bet bigger because our idea is to bet/bet/push and with your bet sizes it's ok but it could be better; furthermore every time the utg folds the river at least we've taken more money on the flop and on the turn.

I do believe that preflop if i 4bet i isolate and if i fold it's a bit too weak against 2 fish given the odds.

Still w8ting for some advice though in spots where u bet twice with smth like tptk+ and worse card comes which completes all his draws from the range. I know this should be very player dependent but i would like to know more about this.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello x3mwisp,

I'd most likely start betting the flop already bigger cause if he has any kind of hand he is paying you. :) Then can also easily ship the river.

But now is the question from what do you get called there? QJ also got there so you are rather value-towning yourself vs strong hands. Kx rarely will Call which means we should consider betting it a bit smaller, maybe even towards lower bets like $7-9.

Best Regards.


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BadeaCelRau
Joined: 15.10.2010

veriz you told me once in a hand that betting small when the flush comes on the river is the worst option because I'm never doing that with a flush. Doesnt' that apply here aswell? The flop was similar, AJ high and 3 smaller cards (similar in the way that I wanted to extract value from A or J)


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Originally posted by BadeaCelRau
veriz you told me once in a hand that betting small when the flush comes on the river is the worst option because I'm never doing that with a flush. Doesnt' that apply here aswell? The flop was similar, AJ high and 3 smaller cards (similar in the way that I wanted to extract value from A or J)

Depends a lot against whom we doing that, if rather passive guy then it works out.


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