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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($227)
BB ($197)
UTG ($208)
CO ($99.16)
Hero ($327)

Dealt to Hero 4♥ 8♥

fold, fold, Hero raises to $4, fold, BB calls $2

FLOP ($9) T♥ J♦ 4♠

BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB raises to $20, Hero?

villain: 21/16
3bet: 7.4% (8% resteal)
call bb vs steal: 16%
47% fold to cbet, 17% raise
WWSF: 49%
1k hands
Notes:
3bet resteal K5s

I think the cbet here is OK, since checking back and calling once/twice kinda sucks both in terms of playbability and equity-wise, even if he is flop cbet raise% is on the higher side.

But how do you proceed when you face a raise here?? TT-JJ 3bets pre, so that leaves him with JT, 55 that would raise for value, unless he calls something like J5, J4s pre (stats suggest he doesn't though..) or is raising "thinly" for value with a strong toppair (KJ-AJ).

But overall his valuerange should be pretty narrow, but then he could however have some draws as well, and my hand is not doing particularly good either way equity-wise, but I hate folding (I am a fish) and I also believe I am folding a bit too much in these spots.

So what are your guys thoughts on this hand? How would you proceed when facing a raise here?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Cbet is standard with bottom pair + BDFD

This is a gutshot really often IMO. I think Turn barrel is really important here. If he barrels a lot then you will get pushed off your hand on so many cards (A/K/Q/9).

I don't think he ever has AJ here on rainbow Flops and esp without dynamic (also 21/17 guys are almost always polarized here).

If he barrels a lot I would consider 3betting Flop. You don't rep much but still I don't expect this dude to just randomly jam KQ here. Then you can easily check back Flop and bluffcatch all blank runouts.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Thanks for the input.

What is good indicator of villains turn barrel frequencies if you have no reads? Agg freq? af?


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello axelphoney,

CBetting with the equity + extra backdoor equity is pretty standard there being OOP. Though being OOP would be way different at least for me, rather Check/Fold then whilst I expect him very often to hit such a board.

He is capping his range very hardly on the flop whilst I expect him to 3bet preflop vs the min-raise with TT/JJ, so it's only left TJ which would plan to go broke. Not to give him great odds which he clearly will get with any hand with he is Check/Raising I'd be 3bet/Folding my hand.

His Check/Raising can be wide here, depends a lot on the opponent. SD/mid-pair/TP or whatsoever hand. Though I don't expect him to Check/Raise such a board with total air type of hand which doesn't have equity. If he does then it's rather a bad move from him and in the future we should exploit it.

Best Regards.


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