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[Closed] NL200: FH on river vs overbet

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swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

1/2 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♥, 9♣
MP3 folds, CO calls $2.00, BU folds, Hero calls $1.00, BB checks.

Flop: ($6.00) T♣, Q♠, 9♦ (3 players)
Hero bets $5, BB folds, CO calls $5.00.

Turn: ($16.00) 6♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $12, CO calls $12.00.

River: ($40.00) 9♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $75, Hero raises to $181.00 (All-In), CO raises to $158.86 (All-In).

Final Pot: $379.86

villain 21/8, 1.3AF, 28wtsd over 96 hands.. for some reason I've come accross several of these 15-20vpip 7-10pfr players these last few days, they seem to play anything BUT the top 20% of hands... this guy had also shown down some pretty dumb plays
anyhoo, is a c/rAI for bluff induce (the AI would be called by KJ, J8, 9x etc imo) ok? On the spot, this overbet really looked like a slowplayed flop, and slowplaying a set would make no sense, so I assumed he flopped or turned the straight... would a flatcall be better though?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

standard with the 3rd nuts.


tbh I don't see him overbet like that with a straight.


Originally posted by lilprincess
tbh I don't see him overbet like that with a straight.

only hands that beat you are Qs & 10s and cant think someone would flat call preflop with either

nh


Originally posted by curnow

Originally posted by lilprincess
tbh I don't see him overbet like that with a straight.

only hands that beat you are Qs & 10s and cant think someone would flat call preflop with either

nh

you mean queens and nines I hope.

The point is: no doubt I'd push all my chips into the pot, but is check raising the river our best option?Probably we'd trap straights or worse FH only and not everytime..
On the other hand by bet/pushing we trap them as well, sometimes he would call a straight but no doubt he's gonna push FH.
And we get value by top pairs too...


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

Originally posted by IamPoZ

Originally posted by curnow

Originally posted by lilprincess
tbh I don't see him overbet like that with a straight.

only hands that beat you are Qs & 10s and cant think someone would flat call preflop with either

nh

you mean queens and nines and tens I hope.

The point is: no doubt I'd push all my chips into the pot, but is check raising the river our best option?Probably we'd trap straights or worse FH only and not everytime..
On the other hand by bet/pushing we trap them as well, sometimes he would call a straight but no doubt he's gonna push FH.
And we get value by top pairs too...

fyp
imo top pair and better will bet, but a straight might not even raise the river (or, it's the worst hand with which he'd raise), so if you count the occasional bluff by him, the best option is c/r I think


Thorsten77
Joined: 28.05.2006

I bet/raise the river vs. such a passive player. I think c/r is fine against aggro players, but here I would be too concerned about a check behind.