JJ vs unknow IP

w4terman

Joined: 04.04.2011

18.12.2012, 20:11 0

Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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SB: $15.08 (150.8 bb)
CO: $20.34 (203.4 bb)
MP1: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $12.26 (122.6 bb)
UTG+2: $3.09 (30.9 bb)
UTG+1: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
MP2: $10.25 (102.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): $10 (100 bb)
BB: $9.11 (91.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A J
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 7 Q 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.47) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

River: ($4.27) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1, Hero calls $1

Results:

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$6.27 pot ($0.31 rake)
Final Board: 7 Q 9 8 7
CO showed 9 Q and won $5.96 ($2.90 net)
Hero mucked A J and lost (-$3.06 net)

should i fold here preflop vs unknown?

checking flop looks like AK or a trap

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_Anonymous_

18.12.2012, 21:37 0

Hi w4terman,

Are we "Hero" Or "Co" here?

From your questions it appears that you are talking about CO as being us but from the hand it appears otherwise.

If we are indeed Hero here why are we check/calling that flop and ck/calling river?

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w4terman

Joined: 04.04.2011

Posts: 757

19.12.2012, 13:57 0

Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP2: $11.67 (116.7 bb)
CO: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
MP1: $8.24 (82.4 bb)
SB: $2.60 (26 bb)
MP3: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
MP1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.55) 4 8 7 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.82, MP1 raises to $3.64, Hero raises to $8.80 and is all-in, MP1 calls $3.40 and is all-in

Turn: ($16.63) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($16.63) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$16.63 pot ($0.83 rake)
Final Board: 4 8 7 J 8
MP1 showed K K and lost (-$8.24 net)
Hero showed J J and won $15.80 ($7.56 net)

i post a wronge hand for some reason sorry ♦

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_Anonymous_

19.12.2012, 18:43 0

Originally posted by w4terman
Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP2: $11.67 (116.7 bb)
CO: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
MP1: $8.24 (82.4 bb)
SB: $2.60 (26 bb)
MP3: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
MP1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.55) 4 8 7 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.82, MP1 raises to $3.64, Hero raises to $8.80 and is all-in, MP1 calls $3.40 and is all-in

Turn: ($16.63) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($16.63) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$16.63 pot ($0.83 rake)
Final Board: 4 8 7 J 8
MP1 showed K K and lost (-$8.24 net)
Hero showed J J and won $15.80 ($7.56 net)

i post a wronge hand for some reason sorry ♦

That makes sense.

Limp/reraise (especially this big) is usually a really strong move at FR from UTG. Combine that with the fact that he is a bit fishy (stack) and i would say that we are facing, very often, QQ+, AK

Because we don't get odds to set mine and postflop we are guessing I'd fold preflop.

Flop should be a bet/fold after we get limp/reraised and then ck/raised. You only beat random bluffs and the guy is unknown and thus we can't expect him to be a maniac.

Nice hit on the turn though, you probably perma tilted the fish.

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