Here are some thoughts on why we don't donk bet from the blinds. You will understand why I am starting with this situation in a minute...
So say the button opens x3 and we flat QJs from the bb. I think most of the time flatting is better than 3betting. So lets look at two flops:
Q64 rainbow
and
752 with one club.
In 2013 we are always checking both of these flops. Both flops are raisable with QJ, but it depends on the dynamics of the game. Without prior history I would probably raise the second one and ch/call the first one.
In any case we check close to 100% of the time when defending from the blinds. Why do we do that??? Probably because its the trend and we saw other people do it, etc. But there's a reason why it's the trend now and was not (from what i heard) 5 years ago.
Fundamentally, We check 100% of the time because we expect the button will cbet close to 100% of the time. This is the case for most players in 2013 and not the case for 5 years earlier. If the button cbets 100% of the time, its better to check/raise as a bluff AND check raise for value.
1) Check raising as a bluff is better because we will simply win more monies when he folds.
2) Check raising for value lets us extract more value and bloat the pot.
In both cases we let the opponent put some more 'dead' money in the pot first.
Hypothesis: we should check when our opponent will bet close to 100% of the time.
Now lets look at another example:
We raise QJs UTG and BU flats. Two flops again:
Q64 rainbow
and
752 with one club.
For most people the standard is to cbet both flops i think.
So my question is " why do we check OOP from the blinds, but cbet OOP when we are the initial raiser preflop". You know the guy will bet 100% of the time if you check. (OK this is an exageration! ♦ But seriously, everyone is so aggressive these days.) Is there really a fundamental difference between playing say bb vs bu and HJ vs bu?
Since most regs have a high cbet when they were the initial raiser and are OOP on the flop, I want to hear your reasoning. Hopefully my question makes sense
