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NL50 SH - K4s: sb vs bb donkey

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Lunitis
Joined: 22.02.2009

38/4
27 hands

Hero (SB): $56.78 (113.6 bb)
BB: $41.45 (82.9 bb)
UTG: $44.80 (89.6 bb)
MP: $107.91 (215.8 bb)
CO: $15.13 (30.3 bb)
BTN: $92.71 (185.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4♥ K♥
4 folds Hero?

Open or not?
More basic than this couldnt be :tongue:


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Hi,

standard 3x raise for value. 38/4 would fold likely 50% and you can make him fold other times if he missed. Also K4s is very nice hand sb vs bb and gives a lot of option double barrels.

best regards,


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Lunitis
Joined: 22.02.2009

How wide would you open?
This?!


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Hi,

I would add in any Kx hand; Q7-Q4, most suited hands and most connectors- likely would fold 32, but would always open 54.
38/4 would very rare 3-bet me and if he is folding some hands, then imo it shows profit to open 80-85% hands if it is folded to me.
Also for example if you have there 95s then it is not wrong to limp and bet out a lot of flops. Then he feels that you´re not attacking his blind 100% and you likely don´t get raised too often.

Against aggressive and good tag/lag player I would likely open 60% of hands.


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Lunitis
Joined: 22.02.2009

Interesting. I see many many players recommending a conservative approach on the SB.
"blabla you shouldnt open more from the SB than BU"
"blabla you should open more or less the same from SB as CO"
"blabla a reg on the BB will cause you problems"

So they are talking about 30%+-.

I already had the idea that that was way too tight because players arent defending that much, and a 3bb open needs 62.5% folds for BE.
Anyway i got a but _o: with 60%.

But on fact im seeing more and more regs stealing something around those numbers you are talking. I thought they were just some spew monkeys.


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Originally posted by Lunitis
Interesting. I see many many players recommending a conservative approach on the SB.
"blabla you shouldnt open more from the SB than BU"
"blabla you should open more or less the same from SB as CO"
"blabla a reg on the BB will cause you problems"

So they are talking about 30%+-.

I already had the idea that that was way too tight because players arent defending that much, and a 3bb open needs 62.5% folds for BE.
Anyway i got a but _o: with 60%.

But on fact im seeing more and more regs stealing something around those numbers you are talking. I thought they were just some spew monkeys.

basically it all depends on your opponents.
If they are tight and fold a lot to your c-bets then you can open wider. if they are aggressive, float you or 3-bet then your opening range should also be tighter.

Usually playing tight on SB is not wrong and it is hard to show profit sb vs bb, so if you´re not sure how to react to 3-bets then fold is always best option.

best regards,


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Lunitis
Joined: 22.02.2009

Btw what winrate do you think its good at sb?


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