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Hi,

Villain is a fish with 3/3 foldtocbet so far and pbb doesn't fold much to 3b at all.

I thought slowplaying could be better here cause he has so many broadways. Only A is bad.

A cbet is viable too but my question is wheter the river is just a snap? Maybe I'm result orientated.

And what about his sizing?

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t/t Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2140140
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: t2940 1 BBs - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 3
BB: t4895 1 BBs - VPIP: 26, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 5,0, Hands: 19
UTG: t3187 1 BBs - VPIP: 4, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 27
UTG+1: t1240 1 BBs - VPIP: 16, PFR: 5, 3B: 14, AF: 0,0, Hands: 19
UTG+2: t3790 1 BBs - VPIP: 58, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 1,5, Hands: 26
MP1: t5003 1 BBs - VPIP: 33, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 27
MP2: t3440 1 BBs - VPIP: 44, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 1,8, Hands: 27
CO: t3190 1 BBs - VPIP: 29, PFR: 14, 3B: 33, AF: 0,0, Hands: 7
Hero (BTN): t2555 1 BBs - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 4,0, Hands: 53313

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is BTN with K :diamond: K :heart:
4 folds, MP2 raises to t180, 1 fold, Hero raises to t420, 2 folds, MP2 calls t240

Flop: (t840) 5 :spade: 4 :heart: 9 :spade: (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t840) 7 :club: (2 players)
MP2 bets t560, Hero calls t560

River: (t1960) 6 :spade: (2 players)
MP2 bets t1575, Hero calls t1575


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onmybike
Joined: 03.01.2012

Something wrong with the handhistorie but i guess bb was 60.
just c-bet ,there are to much turn where you not really can make a good valeubet for 2 streats. River looks like a fold, you only beat a bluf and i guess he is not often enough bluffing here.


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hey omb thanks for your comment! :)

Can't we induce by checking flop? I mean, his range is most of the time missing this flop? Or am I wrong here?

And, do you read something in his sizing OTR? He just puts me AI, is that most of the time strong?


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onmybike
Joined: 03.01.2012

Originally posted by Farmarchist
hey omb thanks for your comment! :)

Can't we induce by checking flop? I mean, his range is most of the time missing this flop? Or am I wrong here?

And, do you read something in his sizing OTR? He just puts me AI, is that most of the time strong?

I do not like inducing here for a few reasons.
1. stacksizes are good to play bet flop go allin turn.then you do not let him see 2 free cards to make his flush or straught/ 2pair.
2. A lot of hands in his range will decrease in valeu with a lot of turns. The hands that had hit this board are 1 pair hands like 22-jj 9x when you give a free turn and it is a card higher then the pair they have, they are not willing to give a lot of valeu anymore. when he has 88 for example he cal flop and wil maybe even cal turn on a shove.
3. He is a fish, 3 hands are not really a sample and most fish when they have something the will just cal flop for sure when it is a big pot like this one. I think you just think to much in a reg mind about the fish. He do not think like: o ,he 3bet me and now does not c-bet, he have to have AK type of hand here maybe i can bet 2 streats to let him fold etc. The fish just see there hand and the board and think ow i have nothing let check and on the turn when he had nothing o check again. to induce a 2 barrel from a fish because your range is rapping hand who can not cal 2 streats is just to complicated imo for a fish.

i do not really see anything in his bet sizing maybe timing etc with betsizing can give me some read. But normally when fish put you allin they are not bluffing especially when they bet 2 streats.


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Originally posted by onmybike

Originally posted by Farmarchist
hey omb thanks for your comment! :)

Can't we induce by checking flop? I mean, his range is most of the time missing this flop? Or am I wrong here?

And, do you read something in his sizing OTR? He just puts me AI, is that most of the time strong?

I do not like inducing here for a few reasons.
1. stacksizes are good to play bet flop go allin turn.then you do not let him see 2 free cards to make his flush or straught/ 2pair.
2. A lot of hands in his range will decrease in valeu with a lot of turns. The hands that had hit this board are 1 pair hands like 22-jj 9x when you give a free turn and it is a card higher then the pair they have, they are not willing to give a lot of valeu anymore. when he has 88 for example he cal flop and wil maybe even cal turn on a shove.
3. He is a fish, 3 hands are not really a sample and most fish when they have something the will just cal flop for sure when it is a big pot like this one. I think you just think to much in a reg mind about the fish. He do not think like: o ,he 3bet me and now does not c-bet, he have to have AK type of hand here maybe i can bet 2 streats to let him fold etc. The fish just see there hand and the board and think ow i have nothing let check and on the turn when he had nothing o check again. to induce a 2 barrel from a fish because your range is rapping hand who can not cal 2 streats is just to complicated imo for a fish.

i do not really see anything in his bet sizing maybe timing etc with betsizing can give me some read. But normally when fish put you allin they are not bluffing especially when they bet 2 streats.

I have to agree with this!
Just a standard cbet on the flop -> you lose a ton of value imo if you don't cbet here... especially fishes (no real sample) but if you think so, don't fold very often in 3bettet pots if you cbet small here!

Greets,
Tiltberger


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