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Nasty spot, the pusher seems to be adequate, but his move is silly, especially when open raiser is a lose (unknown for me) fish.

BU was 8/8, 10 hands
CO was about 60/40, 10 hands

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($10.15)
BB ($4.85)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($8.28)
CO ($8.83)
BTN ($8.70)

Dealt to Hero J♣ J♦

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.40, fold, fold, BTN raises to $8.70 (AI), Hero ??


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Hi Pokerf

I think that this is a fold here simply given the pot odds.

I suggest you equilab your hand versus a range you think he has and look at how much equity we need.

We'd have to call 7.3 into a pot of ~18 so we need 41% before rake.


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POT = (8.70 * 2 + 0.1 + 0.05 + 0.3) * 0.95
Have to call: 8.70 - 1.40 = 7.30
So I need 7.30 / 16,9575 = 0.43 or 43% equity vs his range.
Let's check in the PokerStove. I'm pretty sure he will never play AA and KK such way. But I give him half of these combinations, all AK. 1 combination 99 as bluff, and all TT - I expect to see this most of the time.

Hand 0: 48.358% 46.82% 01.53% 173177232 5677041.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 51.642% 50.11% 01.53% 185326350 5677041.00 { KK-TT, 9c9h, AKs, AKo }

So it looks like a pretty easy call vs his such a wide range. (I mean "wide" because of all KK here.)
Even if I add all AA I will have 44% equity.

Where is my mistake?


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Originally posted by pokerferrer
POT = (8.70 * 2 + 0.1 + 0.05 + 0.3) * 0.95
Have to call: 8.70 - 1.40 = 7.30
So I need 7.30 / 16,9575 = 0.43 or 43% equity vs his range.
Let's check in the PokerStove. I'm pretty sure he will never play AA and KK such way. But I give him half of these combinations, all AK. 1 combination 99 as bluff, and all TT - I expect to see this most of the time.

Hand 0: 48.358% 46.82% 01.53% 173177232 5677041.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 51.642% 50.11% 01.53% 185326350 5677041.00 { KK-TT, 9c9h, AKs, AKo }

So it looks like a pretty easy call vs his such a wide range. (I mean "wide" because of all KK here.)
Even if I add all AA I will have 44% equity.

Where is my mistake?

I say it's really optimistic, at these limits, to give him 99 and TT in his range. I think that given his stack he can 4-bet shove KK and AA.

However, if you expect such a wide range then calling is fine. But I wouldn't expect a wide range from an unknown non-fishy looking guy.


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