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11$; 6max; bb60, Q9o, BvB, TP vs a good reg

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $60(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,990)
Hero ($1,800)
CO ($1,900)
BTN ($4,310)

Dealt to Hero 9♥ Q♦

fold, fold, SB raises to $120, Hero calls $60

FLOP ($240) 7♣ 9♦ 2♣

SB bets $120, Hero calls $120

TURN ($480) 7♣ 9♦ 2♣ 4♣

SB checks, Hero bets $250, SB raises to $3,750 (AI), Hero calls $1,310 (AI)

very good reg 31/28/inf/168, SB steal 73% (22) - filtered for 4 handed, no particular history

pretty much standard? his line doesn't make any sense with any kind of a strong hand (maybe a nut flush, but even then its a bit off imo, with no history between us). It just looks like a semi-bluff 99% of the time, right?


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Hmm...I am wondering about re-raising flop as this guy is pretty aggro, u say he's good, so then he can hand read, once we call, we never have too strong of a hand-we re-raise 77/99/79/strong draws like FD+ over, strong 9x, 9x with a FD, so he might double/tripple barrel and we are put in a tough spot. If u flat, u need to be ready to call double/tripple barrels with our hand if u think u can induce him to do that.

I don't know what our image here is, but if we have an aggro one, I will just re-raise stack off. If not-it's a tricky spot.

As played- I c/b on the turn. I think if he had single high card clubs, he will fire a double barrel. As played, hmm....I just don't know why he would c/s A :club: here instead of double barreling it as I said, we have nothing strong. I will leave it for a bit for other HJ to share their impression.


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i like raising flop to induce a spew. if you flat your plan is to never fold and let him bluff.

this turn c/r is not a value line imo. so i would definitely bet/call the turn. checking back turn is also a decent line , but be prepared to call ANY river (including clubs)

[edit] checking back turn to keep the pot smaller 4-handed is probably the best line when you factor FGS


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
i like raising flop to induce a spew. if you flat your plan is to never fold and let him bluff.

so should i understand that youre willing to stack off on this flop? if so than what would be your pot controlling range? 9x with the kicker lower than ???, 7x, A2? That would mean that we're stacking off pretty light (at least for my nitty standards :)) - is it because the board is drawy so he may 3bet shove flop with more draws + he may do that with more bluffs cause he thinks we're raising on a a draw more often? so bacically stack off 'light' but only against thinking, good players. Whats your flop line (with the actual hand) if SB is a:
- aggro fish? (stack off as well i assume)
- passive fish? (pot control?)


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Yes, we are willing to stack off on this flop.

A2o, I will normally 3bet pre vs a reg, so it's not really in my flatting range.

Top pair good kicker vs somebody aggro with so many draws on the board don't see that lose to me. It's seems quite decent, especially if we were a bit shorter, say 20-25bb, then it would be no brainer.

7x sucks. I prolly still call flop, evaluate turn, but if I know he's as aggro as he is, I can call turn/rivers with good kicker 7x a for reasonable price if he can't rep that much.

Yes, it's cuz flop is draw heavy, he might get it in with a lot of draws.

vs aggro fish, I am so happy to stack off here that I wouldn't give it a second thought. The will have so many worse 9x there to be willing to pay. Some will get it in with A7 also, many draws etc.

Vs passive fish-yeah, take a more cautious line.


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