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11$; 6max; bb100; KJo, A64 flop

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $100(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,800)
BB ($4,955)
Hero ($1,275)
CO ($2,250)
BTN ($1,720)

Dealt to Hero K♠ J♥

Hero raises to $200, fold, fold, SB calls $150, fold

FLOP ($500) 4♥ A♠ 6♠

SB checks, Hero bets $255, SB calls $255

TURN ($1,010) 4♥ A♠ 6♠ 9♣

SB checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($1,010) 4♥ A♠ 6♠ 9♣ 5♠

SB bets $200, Hero folds

SB wins $1,010

unknown 39/14/1.6/76

shall i rather check back flop since by betting im not really folding out any better hands and i wouldnt say im getting a lot of value from worse (maybe some draws). But whats the plan then - are you really calling a lot of turns against an unknown with just K high? ch/folding every street post seems too weak to me on the other hand..

as played anybody calling that river? don't think so, even for this amazing price


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

I just shove pre btw. It's 12.5-13bb from the HJ, it's a plus EV spot.

As played-sure I cbet. We don't mind winning the hand right away as if u check- he let him realize free equity + I am sure u will be put in a tough spot to call turn, call river if fish decides to go crazy.

I make the cbet much smaller though, it's a super dry Ax board, I make it 200 tops to go. Even 1/3 pot will not be bad.

After he c/c, especially this big cbet- I am done with the hand.


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

Originally posted by kurrkabin
I just shove pre btw. It's 12.5-13bb from the HJ, it's a plus EV spot.

im afraid i dont remember who were my opponents in this hand but i highly doubt they were all good regs calling Nash. And if thats not the case then im really not sure abt open shoving. Here are the Nash ranges. When i put all off them (for every possible scenario) into Wiz im getting a +0.03 Diff%. Now let's assume all of them call a bit looser (a pretty sound assumption imo), but not too much, 7,5% instead of ~6% - our push becomes bad, with Diff% -0.22. its not horribad but unnecessarily bad id say. + i think we can easily assume that in reality theyre gonna call even much looser than that.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Hmm :) 60:40 Pay out. That makes it closer. What do u do if u get flatted on Ip or shoved on? I guess u hate life in firat case and fold in the second one. I would say raise/fold on a nitty table and just fold. on a table with spewers. Raise if CO/btn are tight and blinds are, say, very passive fishes so even if they flat we have position and dominate their range.


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