KK overpair in 4way pot

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Tombic

Joined: 07.02.2011

Posts: 272

26.04.2013, 14:51 0

Should i bet/call turn? Villain was so loose i wouldnt be surprised to see AQ or draws. Against 2pairs it is almost even call

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $20.47 (204.7 bb)
SB: $11.44 (114.4 bb)
BB: $2.70 (27 bb)
Hero (UTG): $19.87 (198.7 bb)
MP: $10.91 (109.1 bb)
CO: $7.67 (76.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.30, MP folds, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.25) 5 Q J (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, CO calls $1, 2 folds

Turn: ($3.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.40, CO raises to $6.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.97

River: ($15.99) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$15.99 pot ($0.79 rake)
Final Board: 5 Q J 7 Q
Hero showed K K and lost (-$7.67 net)
CO showed J Q and won $15.20 ($7.53 net)

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mbml

Joined: 27.11.2008

Posts: 20,957

26.04.2013, 14:56 0

Hi.

While I often advocate bet/folding Turn with one pair hands cos turn raises are usually made with two pairs or better, I Think it's fine to bet/call here for a few reasons

-Opponent is short -> His Turn jamming range is going to be wider than usual
-Opponent jammed instead of min-raising -> His range is less nutted
-We get 25% pot odds (4/16 = 25%)
-Pot is already big -> While the multiway dynamics usually make continuation ranges stronger in general, I Think vs a huge fish it doesn't matter too much cos he is not thinking about all those various factors. He just looks at his hand and the board without considering other factors like ranges.

What having 4 players mean is that the pot on the Flop is twice as large as in a headsup flop. so this lowers the SPR (stack to pot ratio) by half, making this spot more similar to a 3bet pot. And I would not fold KK Here in a 3b pot, so the same applies for this spot.

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