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NL200 QQ vs 5bet deep

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DeLau
Joined: 10.01.2009

Hi,

villain is 28/21 reg, 3bets 17% in SB and fold 44% to 4bet, no 5bet stat. I opted to call the 5bet as I don't see hem get it in with worse. Too tight?

He cbets flop 58% and check/folds 60% as pfr. Bet flop? Call turn?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $498.58 (249.3 bb)
SB: $415.06 (207.5 bb)
BB: $167.55 (83.8 bb)
UTG: $147.17 (73.6 bb)
MP: $173 (86.5 bb)
CO: $134.82 (67.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $14, BB folds, Hero raises to $32, SB raises to $66, Hero calls $34

Flop: ($134) 3 5 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($134) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $98, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$134 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 5 6 3
Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$66 net)
SB mucked and won $131.20 ($65.20 net)


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi.

Preflop: Well if you do expect some 5b/7b dynamics I do think that QQ could definitely be good enough to ship here, especially if you are viewed as hyper-aggro with a super wide 4b range. What's your image? Calling can't be too bad either but I would never fold an overpair

Post-Flop: If you are playing QQ so weakly then I don't think you should 4b this in the first place. I'm not folding


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DeLau
Joined: 10.01.2009

Well it's zoom and I didn't notice villain before so we didn't have any dynamic and I doubt he saw me as overly aggressive. He might assume I will 4betbluff more often as we're deeper. But I haven't seen anyone 5betbluff in my short zoom experience.

Are you betting flop?


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lnternet
Joined: 19.06.2012

Don't bet the flop no. That would be really bad. He will check push on you with some AsX hands and hands that crush you. He will not check call any worse hand (maybe some 54s hand but rarely). Betting flop makes no sense at all.

Turn I'm not so sure. I would not fold to a 1/2 bet there. But he is betting really big which gives you worse odds and makes a rive shove a lot more likely.

I think I call turn and cry-call river but I don't mind your turn fold too much.

(Preflop call should be fine. You can't jam for value, you could only jam for protection against his bluffs. Which is good, but likely better to just call.)


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