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[Closed] 3/6 - 98s BBdef flopplay?

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bananaranger
Joined: 20.04.2007

Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
[tg]Position:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;BU:13935/23/17/2.5/39/51/21/55;SB:1546/76/9/0.1/53/44/6/42;MP2:33215/24/18/2.8/35/47/17/55;BB:///////;CO:93521/29/21/2.5/38/48/16/52;MP3:20390/25/18/2.5/36/51/25/51;[/tg]
3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9♦, 8♦
MP2 folds, MP3 raises, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) Q♠, 3♣, 9♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls.

cap flop + bet turn? pretty drawless board and his raise came from mp3.
Turn: (5.17 BB) 2♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

River: (5.17 BB) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 6.17 BB


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TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

Cap flop? He seems like a reasonable TAG, aren't you going to be horribly dominated most of the time here? Is your plan to fold to a turn raise? Because he checked behind the turn in this case doesn't mean you're missing lots of value often.

I'd fold turn unimproved but can someone else clue me in if this is too weak?


Reverand221
Joined: 24.02.2008

I like cap flop + bet turn. Q or 99+ is unlikely, because he would call flop and raise turn in position with these hands. He could play third pair or A high like this (JTs with bdFD too), which you beat. Usually we only need to worry about a better 9 imo.

As played I agree with TerrorBlade - c/f turn unimproved.


TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

Yeah we do need to worry about a better 9 cause no worse 9s raise from MP3 preflop. So we're capping against a 3rd pair/A high and 1 possible straight draw?

Also not all opponents play call flop raise turn in position as they are unaware of these moves no matter how TAG their stats are. If he's a thinking opponent wouldn't he also wait for the turn anyway with every hand to raise/fold if he's adhering to the standard flop moves & balancing them?

Imo remove the turn and river parts of the hand you posted next time cause I think they can have a biasing effect if we see that he in fact checked turn and folded river.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

3-bet flop IP is a weak hand a lot from a TAG. I think he will have A high quite often.


bananaranger
Joined: 20.04.2007

yes, a standard-pokerstrategy-tag's line is call flop and raise turn with strong hands -> cap flop and bet turn.


His 3-bet makes absoltuly no sense. Not even with A-high as a cheap showdown 3-bet with A-high where he often is beat anyway makes no sense.
The only hands I could put him on are KJ, KT and JT so a cap is better here.

Did we play together before? (You probably play at PP? Can you give me my stats you have? My nick is nearly the same as here.)


bananaranger
Joined: 20.04.2007

Aliens destroyed your PT?
Since 27/04/27 we played 125 hands on the same 5/T-table(s):
26.4/18.4/1.67/45.16, incredible +24.76BB/100, give me your secret if this is your normal winrate, please :-)
mining stats (this may include older data because my PT's purge does not work):
3/6 25.54/20.42/2.44/38.42 10,320 hands
5/T 23.67/18.83/2.37/36.38 12,652 hands


Originally posted by bananaranger
Aliens destroyed your PT?
Since 27/04/27 we played 125 hands on the same 5/T-table(s):
26.4/18.4/1.67/45.16, incredible +24.76BB/100, give me your secret if this is your normal winrate, please :)
mining stats (this may include older data because my PT's purge does not work):
3/6 25.54/20.42/2.44/38.42 10,320 hands
5/T 23.67/18.83/2.37/36.38 12,652 hands

Nah just wanted to know what ready my opponents have against me. ;)
Looks pretty standard. I may be a bit looser today. :)

And no 24BB/100 is not my winrate. :/

Thx for posting.