(sh) 3b pot AKs low flop

Hi,

Bord is too drawy to 3-barrel, so I would c-bet once and then give up unless it is Q,K,A or hearts.

I like your bet size. You mostly want him to play straight forward and 60% bet size would fold out hands that has equity+ Ax floats

If you want you can always c/f flop. I don´t like c/r without knowing anything against player and not really sure about c/c, since you get valuetowned too much

best regards,

if i c/f hands AK on those flops which is not a big deal because im not 3betting much in this spot. only my V range + depending on how much villain folds to 3b pure bluffs. vs btn min r i call quite a bit.
should i considering x/r my value hands overpairs and maybe fldrs?
or just bet them?
whats ur personal gameplan 4 this spot?
can give examples of a few flops please where would consider 3 barrel? and also an example of a villain against it woud be appropriate ?
thx

Originally posted by retic
if i c/f hands AK on those flops which is not a big deal because im not 3betting much in this spot. only my V range + depending on how much villain folds to 3b pure bluffs. vs btn min r i call quite a bit.
should i considering x/r my value hands overpairs and maybe fldrs?
or just bet them?
whats ur personal gameplan 4 this spot?
can give examples of a few flops please where would consider 3 barrel? and also an example of a villain against it woud be appropriate ?
thx

should i considering x/r my value hands overpairs and maybe fldrs?
- depends mostly on villain, if I can get bet/3-bet on drawy flops I would rather prefer that option than c/r, since then I don´t have to see turn cards and can get extra out of his bluffraises. If you´re generally c/f overcards then you can always c/r to balance out c/f.
Betting is usually better, since players would expect you to bet and mostly players are going to bet their strong hands on drawy boards, rather than c/r
I usually start out betting and then evaluate on the turn. You have enough value hands where you can either barrel, c/c or c/rai depends on the villain. I would likely 3-barrel when turn cards give me extra equity and does not mostly improve villains range; for example this case Th and consider shoving when river is good card to our 3-bet range and bad for him- likely most overcards and especially K, A
You can 3-barrel against villain who is either scared money or who can find fold button. Some players would never fold 88 if you bet turn and shove river even if board runs out 467TQ, since they like to make hero calls and would usually put you on air. It also often depends your and villain history- if he has seen you bluffing before then he would most likely call you down in the future.

best regards,

hey sorry to bother u again !

so to sum it up. vs unknown villains u only 3 barrel when tu card gives u more equity and only fire the river when it is a potential scarecard 4 villains range?
so lets say turn is th the u would b again and if river is a blank x/f ?

how big would u bet the turn when it is a th as we said?
what would u do if u bet tu th and villain shoves? what hands are u expecting him to this ? i looked at the spot assuming we bet 60% pot again . and it is really close between calling and folding. depending on villains range

Originally posted by retic
hey sorry to bother u again !

so to sum it up. vs unknown villains u only 3 barrel when tu card gives u more equity and only fire the river when it is a potential scarecard 4 villains range?
so lets say turn is th the u would b again and if river is a blank x/f ?

how big would u bet the turn when it is a th as we said?
what would u do if u bet tu th and villain shoves? what hands are u expecting him to this ? i looked at the spot assuming we bet 60% pot again . and it is really close between calling and folding. depending on villains range

so to sum it up. vs unknown villains u only 3 barrel when tu card gives u more equity and only fire the river when it is a potential scarecard 4 villains range?
- mostly depends on the players, game flow and my gut feeling, but generally you need to have quite big fold equity or bigger overall equity and mostly your fold equity increases if turn is scare card or at least card that does not increase his overall equity.

so lets say turn is Th the u would b again and if river is a blank x/f ?
- I think barreling turn is reasonable and this case I might even shove on blank river if player has low WTSD- this way I can be more sure he would not call me down 3 streets with one pair hands

what would u do if u bet tu th and villain shoves? what hands are u expecting him to this ? i looked at the spot assuming we bet 60% pot again . and it is really close between calling and folding. depending on villains range ?
- I´m not b/f overcards with flushdraw- he can shove pair+draws against what we have decent equity, sometimes just flushdraws, that we´re crushing and sometimes sets/two pairs