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NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer
SB ($2,100)
BB ($3,320)
UTG ($1,740)
UTG+1 ($1,375)
CO ($1,320)
Hero ($2,145)
Dealt to Hero J♦ T♦
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $400, fold, BB calls $200
FLOP ($900) J♠ J♣ 2♥
BB checks, Hero bets $315, BB folds
Hero shows J♦ T♦
Hero wins $900
fishy unknown 36/6/0.8/151
i know i could have prolly shipped it pre, but thats not what i want to analise here
more of a general question - let's assume a following situation:
- we're the preflop aggressor
- we get one caller who is oop
- we flop a very strong hand on a very dry flop (paired, no FDs, no straight draws)
4 different scenarios based on the opponent and the SPR:
1. reg; SPR low enough to get it in on two streets without the need to overbet
2. reg; we can't play for stacks without overbets unless we bet 3 streets
3. fish; low SPR
4. fish; high SPR
whats you flop action?
1. i would cbet small my entire range (including quads) since i im cbetting all my weak hands with no SD value so i think a reg is gonna find it suspicious if i check back (the only hands i think it may make sense to do it with are SD value hands that cannot b/c but can call a turn bet - A high basically). i would most likely check back turn though.
2. flop cbet with the same reasoning. fire turn as well depending on the card i guess. bet if the board allows draws, check if its still dry on the turn.
3. shall i rather check back flop since fish is never gonna read too much into my check, meaning that he wouldnt find it suspicious but more likely will simply treat it as weakness? i guess especially if i dont need 3 streets to get it in checking back should be much better to allow him to catch up on the turn or simply ch/c a wider range there, right?
4. fish will generally call down lighter, i guess we all agree on that so maybe if against a reg im OK with giving up hope to stack him i shouldnt do that against a fish, meaning i should bet/bet/bet even on a dry board? another thing that may make a flop cbet a bit better against a fish is that they are imo more likely to bluff at it (not passive ones ofc) since it looks like a good board to bluff. This fact alone makes it easier to get all the money in by cbetting a dry board, right?
does it all makes sense? am i right to think that we should generally be more inclined to cbet monsters against regs than fishes?
i believe this post is a bit chaotic but i hope you get what i mean ![]()
cheers!