$0.50/$1 – Flopped top pair on low board in multiway pot

19.08.2013, 00:24 0

Hi everybody. Been a member for a while, never posted a hand before. Looking forward to getting a bit more involved in this community. Okay, so here's what happened:

$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 :diamond:, 5 :diamond:.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, BU calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2 :spade:, 5 :club:, 4 :heart: (4 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, MP calls, 1 fold, Hero ?

Obviously, the BB can have any two cards preflop. This player plays passively preflop, but I have noticed that postflop aggression from this player doesn’t always mean he has a strong hand. When he raises the flop, I think he could have a pair of deuces or fours, which I am ahead of. He could also have an ace, a 3, or a 6 and be semi-bluffing since, if he’s observant, he would have noticed that I’ve been betting out often on flops when the betting wasn’t raised preflop, and so he might be putting me on a garbage hand, and is wanting to isolate me and then take down the pot with a turn bet. But he could also have a better five, or a medium pocket pair, or better which beats me (I don't think he has JJ or better, though, since I think he would have raised with JJ+ preflop). The MP player is very loose and is passive. His limping range preflop is pretty wide and he could cold-call here with a hand I am ahead of, such as A2 (I saw him cold-call on the flop with bottom pair in a previous hand) or overcards + a backdoor flush draw. But after a raise and a cold-call, even from players with wide ranges, I really start to worry that one of my opponents is ahead of me, and so I just call.

My plan was, if I didn’t improve, to calldown if the BB’s turn bet made the MP player fold and got the the hand heads-up, and I was going to call the turn and probably fold the river unimproved if it was still three-way at that point and the BB was still showing aggression. If I made trips or a straight on the turn, I was going to go for a check-raise.

But I don’t know if that’s the right way of going about this. It seems like with top pair and an OESD I have enough equity on the flop to three-bet. But because my top pair is very vulnerable, was it better that I played passively and just called?

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Avataren

Joined: 28.04.2010

Posts: 1,754

19.08.2013, 06:20 0

you got TP and a open ender so its an obvious call. and btw. welcome
on turn no matter what card id call again if it was from 1Bet only. if UI on river and theres a bet again fold. or call if board looks cool.

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_Anonymous_

19.08.2013, 06:29 0

Oh, I've embarrassed myself! I know I have to call one bet on the turn to see if I improve on the river. That's day one stuff. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that I fold to a bet and a call on the turn :f_confused:

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firsttsunami

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20.08.2013, 15:43 0

This hand is a perfect example for bet/calldown. Not only due to your outs but since you have toppair and your opponent may have just x3 A2 K2 K4 A4 etc and he might be capable of betting it through, you cant find a fold at any point. You could reraise the Flop. Would be ok but i think your opponent does too frequently have A3 36 , a set or 5x with a higher kicker. The worse and better hands are kinda equal i guess or not far apart from each other. Call the raise and proceed passively but don't fold!

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_Anonymous_

20.08.2013, 18:13 0

Okay, thank you for your help. I think I can see why this is a calldown situation now.

It's like... based on the action and my opponents' ranges, it's pretty close whether I'm ahead or behind at the moment. What makes this a call is that if I'm ahead and three-betting is correct, I don't really lose much value if I make a "mistake" and just call (I might even gain some value if the BB has a smaller pair and would have bet the turn if I just called the flop, but would fold the turn if I three-bet the flop and then bet the turn) But if the opposite is the case--if I'm behind and calling is correct--making the "mistake" of three-betting the flop could potentially cost me quite a bit, especially if the BB happens to have a very strong hand and four-bets the flop (or he just calls and waits to put in a raise on the turn). I'll have odds to see the river with my draw and I'll just be paying more for my draw than I have to, and that would cost me more than what I would gain by three-betting if my opponents are on worse hands.

I don't know if that sounds like it makes sense? That's how I'm making sense of this, anyway. Might not be what you were trying to say. But at least I'm thinking.

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$0.50/$1 - Flopped top pair on low board in multiway pot