nl16 - 5h4h

Hi,

I think a call is better on the flop. You almost have enough pot odds plus you've got some implied odds because CO seems to have a rather strong hand.
I don't think BTN has SC for a flushdraw often because there were no callers yet. (Please correct me here if I'm wrong, but people don't call with SC often when there are no callers yet, right?).
I'm just worried about 2pair, sets etc shoving when you raise.

Originally posted by MarliesB
Hi,

I think a call is better on the flop. You almost have enough pot odds plus you've got some implied odds because CO seems to have a rather strong hand.
I don't think BTN has SC for a flushdraw often because there were no callers yet. (Please correct me here if I'm wrong, but people don't call with SC often when there are no callers yet, right?).
I'm just worried about 2pair, sets etc shoving when you raise.

Then you should have a plan already what will you do on the turn and river...You check/call turn also and if you dont hit check/fold river?
Once i check/raise into 3 people my line should look really strong. I dont care much about BTN, because he called small preflop iso raise and called cbet IP. Biggest question is about CO, can i get him off from like KT or so...

If they shove, we have quite an easy decision.

My far-from-expert opinions says that the wet flop causes him to put you on a draw and thus he refuses to fold.

If I called I'd play by pot (implied) odds, just passively playing my non-nut draw

Hi gAsheks,

What I find interesting here is that you are not questioning your preflop play at all here and jump straight to the flop.

Remember what we talked about in the past Question all the streets.

Given we are OOP with a very speculative hand why not just 3-bet and take initiative? I would.

As played I think raising is ok. We attack the dead money and can make better hands to fold including some better draws.

3betting 45s, raising this flop... this is a part of the agressive strategy I seem to have missed

Originally posted by MarliesB
3betting 45s, raising this flop... this is a part of the agressive strategy I seem to have missed

Keep in mind I said that I prefer to 3-bet 45 over calling it. It doesn't mean we should always 3-bet

Playing draws passively, especially non nutty ones in multiway pots such as this is a sure way to lose a ton of money

Originally posted by BogdanPS
Hi gAsheks,

What I find interesting here is that you are not questioning your preflop play at all here and jump straight to the flop.

Remember what we talked about in the past Question all the streets.

Given we are OOP with a very speculative hand why not just 3-bet and take initiative? I would.

As played I think raising is ok. We attack the dead money and can make better hands to fold including some better draws.

Yeah, missed this one. It was like: "i have to call a little to see a flop". So far trying to use blocker type hands for squeezing. Will try to use these one too. General reason for squeezing is position and his "smallish" open? With hand like T9s you would go for squeeze too?

You would raise to something like 1.80$ here?

It's all about how we play postflop.

Think of how 45 would play postflop vs other connectors.

If we squeeze I'd go for about 1.7-1.8. The fact that he opens smaller in CO and the other guy just calls helps us a lot because we can assume that both of their ranges may be on the weaker side, especially the callers.

Opening 2.5x in CO is small sign of weakness. Im inclined to 3bet them and see how they react (usually make a note). This time there was a caller so i was passive

Originally posted by gAsheks
Opening 2.5x in CO is small sign of weakness. Im inclined to 3bet them and see how they react (usually make a note). This time there was a caller so i was passive

The caller is what should incline us more because that guy creates more dead money with a weaker range. Almost all value hands would 3-bet such a small open there.

Thanks for really good analysis and pointing out things that i forgot to ask