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NL600 77, turnranges

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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

IPoker, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $538.60 (89.8 bb)
UTG: $960.47 (160.1 bb)
MP: $609 (101.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $600 (100 bb)
BTN: $600 (100 bb)
SB: $546 (91 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $18, BTN calls $18, 2 folds

Flop: ($45) 8 2 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $31.50, BTN calls $31.50

Turn: ($108) 9 (2 players)
Hero??

VIllain: 25/21
50/38/no sample fold to cbet%
51/35/25 ag%

25 WTS
49 WWSF

How would you constuct your continuing range here OTT?

Probably not playing my ranges very good in this spot. By default I am mostly ch/calling weak 8x and worse, while betting K8s+ most draws.

Good hands for each range (c/c c/r bet), assuming a "normal" CO opening range?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey Axelphoney.

Given your comments it seems the adjustment you need to make is more effectively defending your turn checking range since presumably it's possible for guys to auto-barrel 2 vs your turn checks if you are barreling all the strong hands in your range.

It's especially effective vs guys who float too wide to include some hands like sets and draws in your turn check/raising range. Another thing to mention is that just because a hand like QQ is typically in your turn cbetting range doesn't mean it can't also be in your turn checking range a smaller percentage of the time to help you defend your turn checks. You can have hands like 77 which you c/c turn c/f river and the stronger hands like QQ which you'd c/c turn c/c river.

Without being too specific about exact ranges, just be sure to occasionally check-raise turn with a set and check-raise bluff your draws instead of barreling.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Agree with everything you said, but I still think it may be good to have some default ranges to stick with here at least as this is after all a rather common spot.

Not going to have you go through all the trouble and list a range for each line here, but if you, or anyone else, would like to share their ranges in this spot I would be happy to hear. So I will just leave this one open for evaluation in case anyone wants to share how they play their ranges here.


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jmackenzie
Joined: 04.06.2008

against someone you dont even know how often they fold to your cbet why are you worrying about balancing etc. I'd just barrel everything i cbet on the flop.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Even if balance is not necessary here, I think the question is ok from a theoretical point of view.

I think exact ranges used here will differ from player to player. Plus your defending range after you check is going to be a function of villains bet sizing.

I'll leave it open to the other judges and see if we get any nice info


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

I dont think its that impt to cc strong hands on the turn unless villain is overbetting.

U can cc some top pair weak kickers and some second pairs. Then probably calldown the top pairs on blanks and fold the mid pairs


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