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PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

UTG: 243.56 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 27)
Hero (MP): 101.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6♣ 6♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) 5♥ 4♣ K♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 5.12 BB, UTG calls 5.12 BB

Turn: (17.64 BB, 2 players) 9♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 12.28 BB, UTG calls 12.28 BB

To fold 77, 88, to protect vs AQ, AJ, to avoid guesses on the river.

River: (42.2 BB, 2 players) K♦
UTG checks, Hero checks


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Hi G,

Fold preflop imo.. You cannot make money with calling too many pairs in MP vs UTG raise.. So many players behind to 'ruin the show', don't construct weak and capped ranges vs strong openers.


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Wow, Emanuel, you're like a morning breeze to me, refreshing thoughts and reconsidering things which were treated smth like constant :) Thank you for sharing your opinion, its' very useful!

So you say we'd better fold small PP vs readless UTG raise, right? How wide do you assume UTG to be in this spot, smth like ~12%? Sometimes I see guys opening stuff like J8s, K9s, Axs from UTG, according to your words it's untypical behavior usually and so w\o reads it's better to fold.

So I have many questions as your observations seem to be sharper and more experinced than mine _cool:

1) what do you call by default vs UTG raise, 77-JJ? Is there some stuff like JTs, T9s, AQs?
2) do you think it's ok at low limits to 3b QQ & AK vs readless UTG or better flat as not many worse hands calling or 4betting?
3) and if we have notes that range is wider, say 14-16%, can we call all PPs then?


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Originally posted by GreenPiece
Wow, Emanuel, you're like a morning breeze to me, refreshing thoughts and reconsidering things which were treated smth like constant :) Thank you for sharing your opinion, its' very useful!

So you say we'd better fold small PP vs readless UTG raise, right? How wide do you assume UTG to be in this spot, smth like ~12%? Sometimes I see guys opening stuff like J8s, K9s, Axs from UTG, according to your words it's untypical behavior usually and so w\o reads it's better to fold.

So I have many questions as your observations seem to be sharper and more experinced than mine _cool:

1) what do you call by default vs UTG raise, 77-JJ? Is there some stuff like JTs, T9s, AQs?

I cannot put them on very accurate ranges, I agree some open weak hands like that but what I do know is that a capped sub-range will often be too weak even against that and this is not just because of the opener but also because of people behind. Fixing this is not so hard, I talked about it in my last live coaching: 3bet/fold strategy from MP vs UTG. UTG will generally have a solid range so you can't make money vs his open. What you can do is limit the money he makes so that it's distributed to you as well. I would usually 3bet like 60% of his opening range and if I don't have a certain range for him, I just go to about 7% range completely depolarised (yes, I include 88, AQ in 3betting range).

2) do you think it's ok at low limits to 3b QQ & AK vs readless UTG or better flat as not many worse hands calling or 4betting?

Answered before I think, main benefit is the others not playing postflop and you and UTG 'split the blinds' intuitively, not in actual practice but it's close to that. You have a strong range, he has a strong range, people need to have the nuts to take you out of the pot, else you and UTG split the dead money or you win.

3) and if we have notes that range is wider, say 14-16%, can we call all PPs then?

No, a squeeze when you cold call MP vs UTG open still makes you lose quite some money. You have to be very very specific and accurate for having a calling range that contains 90% weak PPs.

Here's also a link to the coaching I'm talking about: http://www.justin.tv/pokerstrategy_english/b/474399931


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Good explanations, keep it up! :f_thumbsup:


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Totally agree _thumbsup:


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Emanuel, can you please share this link one more time? I wanted to re-watch the video but the link has expired...


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Heya,

Unfortunately it's not on the channel anymore. :(


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

in twitch past videos are usually deleted shortly... but after the streaming session, you can open it and then there's a "save forever" option somewhere.
i don't know how it is in justin, but i assume it should work similarly...

once it's deleted it's gone forever though ofc :f_frown:


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What a pity, info there is definitely valuable and it's lost(


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