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tukioppilas62
Joined: 01.01.2011

Villain is unknown, I think calling and 4- folding betting are both okay. 4-bet fold would probably be better because he's unknown. Flop we got a bluffcatcher and my plan was to call flop fold turn if I dont hit a club. On turn I think we can rep flush there and try to get villain out of Kx. I dont think that we have good implied odds to call there because if I do call and hit the river and bet villain is most likely going to fold and if I check he's gonna check back even with worse flushes.

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $16.32 (102 bb)
BB: $7.86 (49.1 bb)
UTG: $14.28 (89.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $33 (206.3 bb)
CO: $20.33 (127.1 bb)
BTN: $16.24 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.48, CO folds, BTN raises to $1.52, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.04

Flop: ($3.28) 5 Q K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.28) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $29.48 and is all-in, BTN calls $8.72

River: ($32.72) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$32.72 pot ($1.47 rake)
Final Board: 5 Q K 4 J
Hero showed Q A and won $0.00 (-$16.24 net)
BTN showed 9 7 and won $31.25 ($15.01 net)


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asimos
Joined: 22.07.2011

Villain is unknown... so all the assumptions you make are wrong in my opinion. You don't know if he is folding Kx, you don't know if he is calling the river.. you don't know if he bets turn only with Kx either.

So standard line here should be to call the turn and reevaluate the river.
Cause 1) he might fire with worse 2) you have a lot of equity.

By check raising you just isolate your self to flushes and Kx... cause he never calls with worse. Really.. do you fold Kx in a 3bet pot here? And how many flushes you have in your range?

Prob check/fold if you don't hit... and bet sth like 1/2 psb if you hit your flush.


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tukioppilas62
Joined: 01.01.2011

Yes, I think you are right. We have only like one flush with AJ in our range. I would probably not even call with that OOP.

Against unknown I would consider folding weak Kx without FD here if I would get check showed on turn.


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Hello,

The main mistake here is the call preflop in my opinion. Flatting AQo OOP will often lead us to marginal spots like this where we can't really take the best decision against unknown (because nobody could say what's best basically).
So, I would 4bet this or just fold.

Flop plan looks okay, but as asimos pointed out, villain is unknown so we can't really know if villain is ever folding Kx and from my observations people at these stakes are still struggling to fold TP/OP in 3bet pots (which I wouldn't say is bad though).
So, I think calling his turn bet is a better option (even though we are OOP) because even against his top range (QQ+, AK) we have 23% and we only need 26% to make a call.

Best,
Plamen


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