50 euro vs a reg

Hi all,

I like getting it in here, there's just too little behind so if he ever has a hand like QT, we can't fold.

cant we shove pre?

as played, i would c/r flop, he doesnt bet, so c/r turn again. we take advantage of lots of delayed cbets and we can still get value from some draws he could have, and even a JX.

what do you think about it?

I am shoving preflop with that hand.

As played, I'm getting it in as well.

I think we see a bit too many b/f on the turn vs a c/r. He just doesn't have enough "strong" made hands that check back the flop. We do get value from delayed cbets though.

I think shoving preflop is also better, and calling the more middling hands like Q9o, T7s etc.

Btw the rake is ridic at that site. Its basically 6% rake. Not sure if its beatable pre-rb

I shove preflop, as played I think a c/c turn works well, as the K is a great card for him to delay cbet with air. Also when we bet there isn't much we can get value from, as he'd be cbetting Jx, flushdraws, gutshots and 7x on the flop, really the only things we're getting value from is Ax, which won't call 2 streets. So if we check the turn he can bet his bluffs on the scare card, and probably check back his Ax, which we can then get value from on the river anyway.

In summary, we don't lose any value from going for a c/c on the turn as we only get 1 street of value from Ax (which we can get on the river if he checks behind), if he's a reg then he's cbetting all draws and made hands on the flop. Plus we have the added benefit of not folding out his air on the turn and giving him the opportunity to bluff.

I don't think I like the line of reasoning Wriggers. Think of it this way, we have near the top of our range here. What would you do with J7s on the turn?

I really don't understand the rake system of hyper husngs on some sites. For instance, microgaming has 3€ rake from 30 to 250€ bi?! 30+3, 50+3, 100+3, 250+3, LOL.

Btw, I am happy to put chips in ott, pf even better.

EDIT: Just checked, even €500 bi is raked €3 (500+3) LOL