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500sunday 2pairs and FD vs c/r on turn

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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

PokerStars - $500+$30|30/60 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 10,000 (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
Hero (UTG+1): 10,620
UTG+2: 9,650 (VPIP: 16.49, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 98)
MP: 10,540 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 23)
MP+1: 5,490 (VPIP: 17.05, PFR: 13.68, 3Bet Preflop: 8.55, Hands: 309)
CO: 10,000 (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 26.92, 3Bet Preflop: 27.27, Hands: 27)
BTN: 7,190 (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
SB: 11,960 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 23)
BB: 9,950 (VPIP: 25.26, PFR: 18.55, 3Bet Preflop: 4.27, Hands: 291)

SB posts SB 30, BB posts BB 60

Pre Flop: (pot: 90) Hero has 8♣ 9♣

fold, Hero raises to 150, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 150, fold, BB calls 90

Flop: (480, 3 players) 9♥ Q♣ 2♣
BB checks, Hero bets 321, fold, BB calls 321

Turn: (1,122, 2 players) 8♥
BB checks, Hero bets 751, BB raises to 1,860, Hero?????

only draw hits and we got c/r should we ch behind turn on betting is good/better

now what call fold unimproved or shove?


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Hi,

Shove is imo the worst option.
We fold out air and we have enough implied odds against JT (also 25/18 might turn some hands into bluffs)
I would call turn and evaluate river.

best regards,


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Havlisak
Joined: 18.05.2009

i think it is a pretty easy call turn reevalue river, mostly fold unimproved


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
i think it is a pretty easy call turn reevalue river, mostly fold unimproved

Agreed! +2 here.


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Originally posted by Havlisak
i think it is a pretty easy call turn reevalue river, mostly fold unimproved

Absolutely this :)

People will turn alsorts of weak showdown into bluffs in these spots and may continue if we improve.

Folding seems really nitty and all in just isolates ourself against a range that crushes us.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by pleno1

Originally posted by Havlisak
i think it is a pretty easy call turn reevalue river, mostly fold unimproved

Absolutely this :)

People will turn alsorts of weak showdown into bluffs in these spots and may continue if we improve.

Folding seems really nitty and all in just isolates ourself against a range that crushes us.

u mean shoving right?


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AceSteph
Joined: 31.03.2010

Originally posted by pleno1
1. Folding seems really nitty

2. and all in just isolates ourself against a range that crushes us.

Nope, folding is nitty, since we have such a nice EQ vs anything. And shoving would iso you vs a stronger range. So it's in the second part of this answer.


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