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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011

BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 9, AF: 0,3, Hands: 116
SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 47
BB: $10.65 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 1,6, Hands: 102
UTG: $14.11 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 2, AF: 2,0, Hands: 119
MP: $9.99 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 12
Hero (CO): $13.62 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 3,3, Hands: 759

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A :diamond: 7 :diamond:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) Q :spade: 8 :club: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45) 5 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.00, BB calls $1

River: ($3.45) A :spade: (2 players)
BB bets $4.40, Hero folds

Final Pot: $3.45
BB wins $3.29
(Rake: $0.16)

is there a point in betting turn IP as agressor when i pick up flush draw if its a paired flop and i cant really go for stacks if i hit my flush on the river?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey Vuciitis,

Preflop is fine.

Just because we can't go for stacks on river doesn't mean we can't value-bet.

It will make 2barreling less profitable overall, but generally we turn a good card and should 2barrel as a bluff unless we think opponent is a calling station or has a very high ftFcbet and hence strong turn range, in which case checking back is fine.

River play is fine.


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011

ok, and what is considered as a borderline percentage so we could consider him continuing a strong range on the flop?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by vuciitis
ok, and what is considered as a borderline percentage so we could consider him continuing a strong range on the flop?

If the guy folds over 80% of the time to flop cbets we want to be very cautious about barreling the turn as a bluff.


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011

never seen anyone having that high fold % over decent sample, but nice to know the facts any ways.

tnx again and i hope u dont mind replying many times, i want to actually understand not just to say that i do! :)


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

I don't mind having discussions here, reply as much as you want.

The 80% thing is not a hard and fast rule. The most important thing to understand is that the more someone folds on the flop, the stronger the range they get to the turn with, and the more cautious we want to be about 2barreling as a bluff.


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