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NL2 pocket 8s hit on flop

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TortoiseAndHare
Joined: 24.01.2014

partypoker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 111 BB
BTN: 108 BB
SB: 116.5 BB
Hero (BB): 182.5 BB
UTG: 201.5 BB
UTG+1: 102 BB
MP: 112 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8♣ 8♠

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (14.5 BB, 4 players) 8♦ K♥ 7♥
Hero bets 7 BB, UTG+1 calls 7 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 5♠
Hero bets 20.5 BB, UTG+1 raises to 47.5 BB,

Hero?

I would say Hero should go all-in ater UTG raise on turn for protection. With 5s on the Turn board is getting draw heavy for straight. 46 and 69 are not likely in UTG+1 range given pre-flop raise. UTG+1 is likely to fold OESD when Hero goes all in on Turn. Donk bet on turn to increase EV.


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Alan883
Joined: 03.12.2008

Hey TortoiseAndHare,

i would go for a check/raise her on that flop. We don't achieve much with that donk and we give them really good price to hit their flushes, straights. If you decide to do a donk at least make it bigger.

As played on turn it is a shove for me. You probably loose only vs KK.


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Once you are at the turn the stack-to-pot ratio is so small you have to shove or fold to his raise. This means that you have to invest 71.5BB's in a pot which will grow to 211.5BB's once UTG+1 calls your shove (let's say 205BB's, to take care of rake and my calculation errors).
So you must have at least 35% equity to make this shove profitable. As you said, UTG+1 probably does not have the straight given his preflop action, so his range mostly consists out of sets and two pairs. I am thinking of some combined draws, but can't come up with any draw that would not have raised the flop.
No matter if there are combined draws in his range or not, I beleive you always have enough equity to shove here.

That being said I think you should have made the flop more expensive. Either by check-raising or by donking bigger. Why do you bet 50% on the flop but 70% on the turn? If you really want to make this a big pot, start at the flop.


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

Hi,

As said, check-raise is decent option here, especially when this board should hit at least to one of their range.

When you donk you should go for 2/3 or 3/4 at least, 1/2 pot doesn't achieve a thing here.

Turn should be bet/shove with our set. We are oop here and if we call he usually checks behind many of his hands on river so we lose value.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Check raise flop could be better. As played, shove turn. :)


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