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Some detail to comment? Any correction? Thanks

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€0.05/€0.1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:d, K:d.
CO raises, Hero 3-Bets, SB calls, BB calls, CO caps, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 8:d, 2:d, 7:c (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 2:h (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls.

River: (19 BB) 9:d (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 22 BB.
Results follow:

CO shows two pairs, tens and twos(T:d T:s).
Hero shows a flush, king high(Q:d K:d).
BB shows two pairs, eights and twos(A:d 8:h).

Hero wins with a flush, king high(Q:d K:d).


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi!

Flop raise is fine since its basically a valueraise with your strong draw but turn raise is a spew. Now your equity droped and you an no longer raise for value and at the same time you have 0 FE(fold equity).Call is clearly the best play here. By raising you can also get into a scenario that SB 3bets and isolates himself with you. Then on the river you will be getting 1:19 with Khigh where he can easily have a FD or SD himself so you basically have to calldown on blank river


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All looks good to me except on the turn. Not a fan of this raise. With the board pairing you may not have as many clean outs on KQ and the flush can be beating on a diamond that pairs the board. Your going to be in a tough spot b/f or c/c on river diamond that pairs the board.

Though the equity is very good at this point.

River is a fist pump, and best not to show results or it becomes a brag or bad beat.


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

Dawnfall is right with his evaluation. Flopraise is really good and when you are at least 3handed you can always raise for value with a flushdraw with overcards. you have 15 Outs. That equals an EQ of slightly over 50%. Precisely you have 52,5% Equity and you can even raise for value when you are heads-up but 3handed with an equity requirement of => 33,3% Equity to raise for value, you can easily put in as many bets as you can.

On the Turn you need to consider that your chance to improve now dropped significantly since not only turn and river can improve you but just the River and another card remains to help you winning the hand. On the Flop you can roughly estimate that 1 out equals 4% Equity and consequently on the turn its just 2%.

So with 15 Outs and your pairouts are not always clean, you'd have ~30% Equity (15 Outs) and probably a little less due to discounting your pairouts down from 6 to rather 4. It really depends on the Preflopaction and the Boardstructure but CO capped and he didnt raise the Flop so its really likely that he's got AQ or AK. Thus K and Q are not really clean as an out.

You'll develop a feeling about how you're properly discounting your outs.

Sometimes - though you have an equity advantage on the flop - its not the best way to raise the Flop. That occurs when you have 2 players behind, that you'll be facing with 2 SB's and you'Ll probably make them folding their hand whereas you could have kept them in by just calling and the guy who made the initial bet on the Flop is really likely not to fold but he's likely to have some hand. So you better play passively, keep 2 players in and you raise when you've hopefully improved on the Turn and you can collect some more bets out of the remaining 2 players who would have folded on the flop if you'd raised.

Sometimes it's also ok to raise on the button with a little less than average equity but for the sake of taking a freecard on the Turn. It's quite individual and is different - from situation to situation. So i'd recommend you to post some more hands and in your next hands please leave out the results since the results just influence the evaluation. Thats not good since poker is supposed to be a non result oriented game!


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