NL50 zoom kqo

Can't calldown on a spade river neither.

Hi clawindsouza

Preflop: looks fine

Postflop: If you defend these type of hands and flop TP it's hard to let it go without other information.

The river brings in a few draws like QJ ot 78 but aside from that he has a lot of missed hands still that could stab.

Spade rivers are tricky so some of them can be a fold too (if he ships).

Originally posted by BogdanPS
Hi clawindsouza

Preflop: looks fine

Postflop: If you defend these type of hands and flop TP it's hard to let it go without other information.

The river brings in a few draws like QJ ot 78 but aside from that he has a lot of missed hands still that could stab.

Spade rivers are tricky so some of them can be a fold too (if he ships).

Do we need to defend GTO on river if spade comes? His range becomes too strong. OK maybe this guy is too agro, but I ask vs balanced reg?

What hands would you defend on river if spade comes?

Defending GTO implies that you expect him to bet GTO.

Do we?

I doubt it, so we don't need to be GTO here.

Originally posted by BogdanPS
Defending GTO implies that you expect him to bet GTO.

Do we?

I doubt it, so we don't need to be GTO here.

I dont expect him to play GTO, but I think we dont have idea about his river bluff/value ratio. How can we play exploitative vs him, if we dont know if we should bluff catch all hands, or fold all hands?
So in that case I think it is logical to defend GTO.

His cbet stat = 67% doesnt look bluff heavy nor value heavy.

Given his potentially wide 3-bet range (as seen in the same stats you are quoting) 67% is still quite a lot.

But what range do you really get to the river that would allow us to fold KQo?

Originally posted by BogdanPS
Given his potentially wide 3-bet range (as seen in the same stats you are quoting) 67% is still quite a lot.

But what range do you really get to the river that would allow us to fold KQo?

Yes he is wider on flop, but still we have no idea about river betting frequencies, we could just make weak assumptions. I used to play before bet wide flop, value heavy turn and river no bluffs at all.

I wanted to say if flush comes, then he has all flush combos + all TPTK+ combos which he can value bet and his range is much stronger on river than ours. So I am wondering if that is the case and we dont have idea about his barreling frequencies, if it makes sense to fold more than usual, so not defend gto?