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gnananandan
Joined: 24.06.2013

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$0.1/$0.2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is with A:c, T:c.
6 folds, Hero raises, folds, SB 3-Bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T:s, 9:d, 5:h (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Turn: (5.5 BB) A:h (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-Bets, Hero calls.

River: (11.5 BB) 8:d (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.5 BB.
Hi guys,
I am posting this hand to know whether I played it upto the mark or any improvement needed?
The opponent was an average player.
I just was slowing down in view of any set or a possibility of straight!


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I think you have him beat. The problem with raising is that it costs you 3 bets when you don't have him beat. You gain 2 bets when you are best. Are you best more than 60% of the time? Judgement thing.


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

Originally posted by YohanN7
I think you have him beat. The problem with raising is that it costs you 3 bets when you don't have him beat. You gain 2 bets when you are best. Are you best more than 60% of the time? Judgement thing.

I think it was very well played. Nothing really to comment on. you raise turn with top 2 which no one should ever stop doing if they want to win. when he 3bets you slow down. very well done that you realized you perhaps wasn't as strong again. and considering he donked turn makes me think hes a bad player I can't imagine or have seen any average/decent player at these limits donk the turn like this. Unless they see you as a total nit who will fold anything on the turn.

Well played.

if he had a straight you can note that he vastly overplays his draws, and if so then it was a really really bad play by him making me believe he was again a worse player than you. henceforth you earn money by playing vs him.


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi!

Standard line here would be to call flop and raise turn for max value but fastplaying on this flop also makes sense so I think both lines are valid. After his flop b/c I put him on Ax,overcards,pockets,9x and greatly reduce Tx,overpairs and even T9,sets.

Him donking on turn tells he has Ax or bluff(like QJ,KQ,...) most of the time and vs such range you are a huge favourite...after his 3bet I would reduce bluff heavily and also worse Ax. There are still A5s,A9,AT and prolly some AK,AQ. For argument sake lets give him also one slowplayed set....

Equity Win Tie
CO 75.92% 68.50% 7.41% AcTc
SB 24.08% 16.67% 7.41% 99, AKs, ATs-A9s, A5s, QJs, AKo, ATo-A9o

...still a very strong favourite and since you played your hand very straightforward, agressively(raising him on every turn) he may think you are bluffing and he can do some spazzy stuff sometimes so Im sure there will occationally be some other wierd stuff there as well(like lets say A8)...in any case I find turn to be an easy cap...or at least call and raise on river.

As played this river is also a raise despite him possibly hitting QJ a hand that is basically just one out of all possible bluff combos(if he even does that),on the other hand you still beat basically all of his value hands. If you get 3bet then its slighly more ugly and I wouldnt mind to just call(however even here cap is not completely out of question).


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gnananandan
Joined: 24.06.2013

Thnks a lot guys!
Dawnfall... so its better to raise once on river and call if he reraises.
I made it upto the 10/20c full ring...starting from 2/4c again after a downswing.
I m going good at the moments with few swings..
Avataren... I m nkt at al seein you innfull ring!
Dawnfall and yohan may I know your pokerstars id pls.. by PM


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

You'll find my id using one guess only. But I withdrew every $ except 5 so that you wont find me above 2c/4c .


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gnananandan
Joined: 24.06.2013

Shall I use the search feature?!
Why would you withdraw all?
How about climbing to higher stakes??! :(


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

Originally posted by gnananandan
Thnks a lot guys!
Dawnfall... so its better to raise once on river and call if he reraises.
I made it upto the 10/20c full ring...starting from 2/4c again after a downswing.
I m going good at the moments with few swings..
Avataren... I m nkt at al seein you innfull ring!
Dawnfall and yohan may I know your pokerstars id pls.. by PM

weird i have only played full ring like 5 times ever and i hated it, so boring to fold fold fold.. last time i tried to play full ring was because i was showing my friend how easy it is to win money. (i was 20 tabling fr and winning insanely fast) whenever i got a hand though which was so rare that i sat and was like "boooring"


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gnananandan
Joined: 24.06.2013

Hi Avataren!
20 tabling? That too boring?!
Do u have an intel i7 in ur head?

I played 4 tabling at 2/4c.
Then up the way I found that more than 2 tabling... I am not efficiently readin players.. and my failures increased!
6max I play too much hands and I hate that variance!
But even at 10/20c there are no players on full ring sometimes..
So I have to adapt my play to 6max soon... X(

I found the PS preflop charts complex...
I cant play my tight game in 6max as I will be loosing my blinds..
So I m sure I m gonaa loose heavy during my transition from full ring to 6max :rolleyes:


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by gnananandan
Hi Avataren!
20 tabling? That too boring?!
Do u have an intel i7 in ur head?
...

No, most of Avataren's brain has been surgically replaced by a Sony Playstation version 2.


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Im DaWnFaLL on pokerstars but since april Im not playing on pokerstars anymore.


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

Originally posted by gnananandan
Hi Avataren!
20 tabling? That too boring?!
Do u have an intel i7 in ur head?

I played 4 tabling at 2/4c.
Then up the way I found that more than 2 tabling... I am not efficiently readin players.. and my failures increased!
6max I play too much hands and I hate that variance!
But even at 10/20c there are no players on full ring sometimes..
So I have to adapt my play to 6max soon... X(

I found the PS preflop charts complex...
I cant play my tight game in 6max as I will be loosing my blinds..
So I m sure I m gonaa loose heavy during my transition from full ring to 6max :rolleyes:

do not bother with pstrategys charts or articles ever again. they are from 2005 or before and don't work anymore. literally they are utter crap and only a recipe for failure..

yeah i was 20 tabling fr and found it boring. you have to fold soo much omg and people were like super tight. I don't know how anyone can deal with that everyday. I would fall asleep if i had to do that.

If you want help with your 6max transition then add me on skype and ill give you a few hours of my time to teach you how to actually play Fixed Limit..


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

Originally posted by YohanN7

Originally posted by gnananandan
Hi Avataren!
20 tabling? That too boring?!
Do u have an intel i7 in ur head?
...

No, most of Avataren's brain has been surgically replaced by a Sony Playstation version 2.

im so happy you didnt compare it to the awful xbox. thanks for knowing what console is better.. Though my favorite is still and will always be Nintendo 64


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

Dawnfall has properly evaluated the Situation. With Top2 pair you should go ahead and cap the Turn. He would have most likely fast played the Flop, not let you taking a freecard. Especially on this Board with many straightdraws, your raise could have had the intention of taking a freecard with QJ KJ KQ and those kind of hands. J8 as well. Also with A9 you should cap the Turn and i wouldnt even mind with A5 on these Limits where i've seen people regularly overplaying their AJ AQ AK type of hands. Raising the Flop is ok, since he might check the Turn with Ax, though people on these limits bet the turn too frequently.

Next time you'll be less intimidated by the 3bet- ;)


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