Postflop raise sizing

Hi, Th334,
I saw recently in a video of a coaching session where the coach spoke about this.

Unfortunately, I can't remember which video it was.

I *think* it was one by W34z3l, though.

If I remember it correctly, the plan related to stack size.

The idea is to size your raises so that you can get it in with a pot-sized bet in the river.

Assuming villain comes along, of course.

Best of luck,
--VS

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
The idea is to size your raises so that you can get it in with a pot-sized bet in the river.

Hi VS,

Yeah, that's a good point. It might seem a bit counter-intuitive, but I wasn't talking about raises where we want to eventually stack, I was talking about pot-control raises ♦ It only happens on micro limits, and only when fish bets some ridiculously small amount. To call is not enough for me, but I don't necessarily have a hand I want to play for stacks with. And now I need to figure out how much to raise his bet.

But I see that there're no set rules or consensus, so I'll use whatever judgement I have at each particular hand

Thanks,
—Th334

Why would you want to pot control w/ AA on T95s? There are so many hands that you beat like draws, weaker pairs and you only lose to sets and two pair (T9 - I assume he doesn't have T5 or 95 in his range).

Your raise size should depend on how wet the flop is, so here I would make a nice juicy pot sized bet and get it in.
Don't make it too complicated with exact raise sizes for every situation. You can even bet or raise according to your hand strength and nobody will notice, but if you want to be balanced just bet/raise big on wet boards and bet/raise smaller on dry boards with both bluffs and value hands.

Originally posted by Th334
It only happens on micro limits, and only when fish bets some ridiculously small amount. To call is not enough for me, but I don't necessarily have a hand I want to play for stacks with. And now I need to figure out how much to raise his bet.

I think the phrase is "click it back" -- in other words, click the raise button, and re-raise his "ridiculously small bet" by the same amount.

These small bets show a polarized range -- they either have the air and are trying to bluff cheaply, or they have the nutz an trying to induce a bluff, or just collect some money.

Another tactic is to just ignore it, and bet what you would have bet if they had not bet at all.

Cheers,
--VS

Originally posted by 4Xample
Why would you want to pot control w/ AA on T95s? There are so many hands that you beat like draws, weaker pairs and you only lose to sets and two pair (T9 - I assume he doesn't have T5 or 95 in his range).

Your raise size should depend on how wet the flop is, so here I would make a nice juicy pot sized bet and get it in.
Don't make it too complicated with exact raise sizes for every situation. You can even bet or raise according to your hand strength and nobody will notice, but if you want to be balanced just bet/raise big on wet boards and bet/raise smaller on dry boards with both bluffs and value hands.

No, sorry, of course I don't want to pot-control here, I forgot about the first example I gave when giving the second one

Yup, the latter. That's what I'm doing, pretty much. Wet board, and/or multiple opponents, and/or the board hits cold-calling range well --> I bet or raise 3/4 - 1/1 pot. If it's dry, one high card, or paired, I just bet 1/2 - 2/3 pot. I just wasn't sure what to do when raising, but I can use the same guidelines in order to give the villain the same pot odds for a call as if I was just betting, not raising. I do tend to raise to 1/2 pot more often though, because it is a big raise still, if you calculate the pot-size raise correctly.