ATs TPTK vs missed FD

If we're going to call and it's not a good board to bluff, why don't we bet ourselves?

becase maybe havent value bet?

I think if villain's not going to bluff often, it's better to bet ourselves so that some worse hands might still call

x/f turn and be happy if you even get to sd, your "top pair top kicker" is trash. value is extremely limited to hands with a single A:d or K:d, even naked Tx can fold because they only beat bluffs

x/f turn and be happy if you even get to sd, your "top pair top kicker" is trash. value is extremely limited to hands with a single A or K, even naked Tx can fold because they only beat bluffs.

lol, its interesting, you are right i havent OTT value bet, (but only if he can fold his 9x hands). I set him this orienting range:

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but i still think its +EV bet, because he folds some hands, so i dont need 50%

So you rly think x/f OTT its good? He still have in range a lot of Tx hands, which he can bet i think... because looks on me a bit weak x/f turn?? thanks

preflop: u r in BB with 2 opponents, you can see flop for free but you raised to 0.6. what is the purpose? isolation/premium hand?

preflop pot size = 0.29+0.10+0.10
preflop pot size = 0.49

Fr CO's perspective,
pot odds = (0.49+0.5) to 0.5
pot odds = 1.98:1
breakeven = 100/(1.98:1)
breakeven = ~33.56%

and given implied odds from your stack I don't see CO folding a lot here. After CO's call, BTN would most probably call too given better odds.

To this end, it looks like you bet too little if you intend to close this preflop.

pre raise is good, hand has nut potential and limpers are probably capped, when you hit a pair it's most often going to be the best pair.

Originally posted by HHHuBi

x/f turn and be happy if you even get to sd, your "top pair top kicker" is trash. value is extremely limited to hands with a single A or K, even naked Tx can fold because they only beat bluffs.

lol, its interesting, you are right i havent OTT value bet, (but only if he can fold his 9x hands). I set him this orienting range:

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but i still think its +EV bet, because he folds some hands, so i dont need 50%

So you rly think x/f OTT its good? He still have in range a lot of Tx hands, which he can bet i think... because looks on me a bit weak x/f turn?? thanks

while he can have worse, that's just a too good card for his range (too many twopair 8x etc) and you still have to play the river oop.
better hands always bet, while you don't know his bluffing frequencies or if he even bets Tx