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nitty fold with AA multiway?

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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $5 (100 bb)
SB: $4.23 (84.6 bb)
BB: $11.49 (229.8 bb) 27/19/9
UTG: $4.51 (90.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $5.12 (102.4 bb)
CO: $2.72 (54.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) 9 5 5 (4 players)
BB bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32, 2 folds

the guy that bets was the forth caller preflop, he had ultra good odds to call with any 5X trash so i suspect he might have one... and i call flop in case he wont go for 3 streets of value, but since he bet turn i suspect he bet river also, and he has reggish stats...

Turn: ($1.26) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$1.26 pot ($0.05 rake)
Final Board: 9 5 5 4
BB mucked and won $1.21 ($0.74 net)
Hero mucked A A and lost (-$0.47 net)


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

The fold is definitely too weak

1. He could have a hand like JJ pretty often
2. he reps an extremely narrow range of hands which includes
A5s (2)
56s (1)
55 (1)
99 (3)

This value range is extremely narrow. I could add 1 or 2 gutshots and this is a super snap call
(7:h8:h, 6:h8:h, 6:h7:h)

I would call Turn and probably call River, as loose as that may sound


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Originally posted by mbml
The fold is definitely too weak

1. He could have a hand like JJ pretty often
2. he reps an extremely narrow range of hands which includes
A5s (2)
56s (1)
55 (1)
99 (3)

This value range is extremely narrow. I could add 1 or 2 gutshots and this is a super snap call
(7:h8:h, 6:h8:h, 6:h7:h)

I would call Turn and probably call River, as loose as that may sound

im pretty sure he would 3bet JJ preflop, btw if river comes blank, do u call potsized bet? or what size of riverbet u call?
do you think that he will bet it with gutshot draw twice?

btw his stats was VP27/PF19/3bet9 and he was getting so good odds that i guess he would have any 5X hand or at least any 5Xs

ofc i would be snapping this headsup postflop, but we were four on flop... do you take that into account?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Having 3 other players definitely makes this a much tougher spot and obv we snapcall HU.

but i still think it's a call cos we are ahead of some overpairs. TT almost always flats and will often lead, and I also think that plenty of people flat JJ here since you are MP openraiser and not LP raiser.

Vs a pot size bet I would fold, against a halfpot bet I'm calling. Most players at NL5 don't really run 3 barrel bluffs so when that happens you can be sure that you're beat.

If he bets around half pot, the possibility that he's overplaying JJ/TT will still be there and I think you can make a crying call


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Originally posted by mbml
Most players at NL5 don't really run 3 barrel bluffs so when that happens you can be sure that you're beat.

If he bets around half pot, the possibility that he's overplaying JJ/TT will still be there and I think you can make a crying call

exactly, i dont see them bluffing there 3barell with gutshots... almost never... so i guess there are better spots to wait for than making crying calls?

but u do have some true, that he could have those hands that im ahead... like TT/JJ/A9.. and was betting them to not let overcards hit


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

yea that's pretty common. So I think u have to call the T for sure, and R will be a bit tougher to play


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