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50 ante 3bet pot OOP

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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

PokerStars - $0.50 Ante $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 252.14 BB
BB: 283.4 BB (VPIP: 70.27, PFR: 15.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 115)
UTG: 424.36 BB (VPIP: 30.93, PFR: 23.97, 3Bet Preflop: 12.71, Hands: 1,974)
CO: 250.14 BB (VPIP: 24.70, PFR: 15.94, 3Bet Preflop: 3.74, Hands: 760)
BTN: 97.9 BB (VPIP: 37.72, PFR: 14.91, 3Bet Preflop: 5.44, Hands: 348)

Villain is NewmanAus, very strong reg.
- as pf3b SBvBTN c/c 765ss, c/f turn blank
- broked 8754ds pre 100bb BvB
- open UTG and 4bet my 3bet with AKJ6ds
- call KK93ss in SBvBTN

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has T♣ K♣ 3♠ K♠

UTG raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 15.5 BB, fold, UTG calls 11 BB

The 3bet might be a bit loose.

Flop: (33 BB, 2 players) 2♣ 6♥ T♦
Hero bets 21 BB, UTG raises to 89.5 BB, Hero ???
Not really sure what to do here. Villain plays a quite LAG style and either hit very well that session or outplayed everyone in every hand. It's hard to make him fold hands which is why I have a hard time folding this. I can't think of too many hands in his MP range which hit this board, most likely rundowns which made a pair+OESD or inside wrap and a few doublepairs which made a set. I don't think he would raise these very often though. How does calling and getting it in on any non-7/8/9 turn sound? Jam seems to spewy and fold to weak with the T.


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

vs aggro/spazzy player i like checking behind this flop, with a balanced checking range we dont have to fear getting outplayed on an 7,8,9,J.

I dont like calling and getting it in on "good" turns, because as you said he is quite laggy and might attack the flop with a wider range than just 2pairs/sets/wraps.

But this means we have very bad visibility and never really know if a turn is good for us or not (besides a T or K).

checkback>b/f->b/shove->b/c imho.

100bb deep it would be closer, b/broke could be fine there, but i also like checking back more.


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

Originally posted by Suhepxm
vs aggro/spazzy player i like checking behind this flop

we're OOP


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

oops, too tired alrdy .

Then it is a x/f or b/f, depending on how float happy he is.

If he floats alot x/f can be the best play, we just get into ugly spots on later streets, basically i would just cbet here for autoprofit or for Value vs very loose passive guys.

Actually if we know he floats alot, attacks boards alot... we might just wanna call this hand deep oop!


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

having a T i think x/f is not an option.
and yeah, pre is questionable :)


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

you really shouldn't use the words i 3b OOP, i am deep and villain is a very strong reg in the same sentence like ever because that this happens post.

Honestly i'd just b/f here. I just don't see it being profitable to call and stackoff on a non str8 turn.

Regards,

Skod


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

What bugs me about folding is that he has an UTG range which doesn't hit that board very often.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

i know what u mean KBE and i´m with u i often put the trigger to often against those guys.

i think c/f isnt a option here as well. But honestly..we are deep and he has often not a pure bluff when he raises for pot.

so in best case we have a flip against something like a inside wrap with pair, set 66 (maybe 6677 he r/c) or AT78ss. dunno if we have to flip here this deep


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

Originally posted by MrTrocks
dunno if we have to flip here this deep

that's why i want to see a safe turn


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

problem with this guys the barrel a lot ott and we dont know exactly which turns are good. okay maybe 789 but what about a J, 5, 4 are u sure he will slowdown? dunno...i really know what u mean. i am so often in those spots like u and maybe fold is better here


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

Why is it a problem if he barrels a lot? It's good for us because we get value the times we shift the equity in our favor and he keeps barreling. You obv get it in on a J, 5 or 4.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

okay i mean if thats ure plan to go broke on every card beside the 789 then its fine


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

well KBE's plan here is fine, it's just insanely high variance. Even if he has T987 for example which is the best case scenario, it's not like we gii ott as a huge favourite. But when we are wrong, and villain actually has a set or 2 pair here, we are a big underdog.

Regards,

Skod


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