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QTo vs Limpers - 0,50 180man turbo

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Cristalyz
Joined: 20.08.2010

Hi,

On the following hand, I push because I think have enough fold equity because I feel like they show weakness with they limp.

Also, I had no read on them, it was a new table.

Is pushing correct or should I have fold ? Also, I was thinking in his situation, is the call correct ?

Thank you !

Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players

SB: 3,945 (39.5 bb)
BB: 2,385 (23.9 bb)
UTG+1: 1,190 (11.9 bb)
UTG+2: 2,158 (21.6 bb)
MP1: 2,590 (25.9 bb)
MP2: 4,481 (44.8 bb)
MP3: 1,024 (10.2 bb)
CO: 2,133 (21.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,775 (17.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q T
3 folds, MP2 calls 100, MP3 calls 100, CO folds, Hero raises to 1,775 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP2 calls 1,675, MP3 folds

Flop: (3,800) 8 3 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (3,800) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (3,800) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

3,800 pot
Final Board: 8 3 8 4 2
MP2 showed K 3 and won 3,800 (2,025 net)
Hero showed Q T and lost (-1,775 net)


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TeamCupcake
Joined: 03.06.2014

With 17 BB, I think that QTo is outside your shove range as you are only being called by better hands.

I don't mind a 3x raise and then playing in position, but really I would be waiting for a better hand to get in with.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers,
TC


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Cristalyz
Joined: 20.08.2010

Thanks TeamCupcake, I completly agree with you.

However, what do you think about his call ?

I mean I think in his position I would have fold or does my move was too fishy that it makes sense to call with K3s ?

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TeamCupcake
Joined: 03.06.2014

You're welcome Cristalyz.

His call is very strange, he must have put you on a complete bluff, feels K-high is good against your range or he is a cannon...I can't see his stats so I'm not sure what type of player he is.

Your move is interesting, I would put you on mid PPs (55-99/TT) or maybe AJ to ATs....sometimes AQ or AK. Cards that you might not want to have a tough decision on the flop with. I'd think you're premium hands you would raise to 450-500-ish for a call and then bet/shove into a pot with an appropriate bet size (1275 into 750 pot).

A few points to think about...

-If you get called, you are most likely behind
-You have 17BB and there is no need to hit the panic shove button yet
-There are no antes to juicing the pot
-I usually treat limpers as if they aren't there, but two become tricky and there is a good chance you're being called
-You don't have a table image that can enhance fold equity, nor do you have a read on your opponents tendencies

QTo should really be a M < 5 hand or a BTN vs blinds raise... in my opinion.

Cheers,
TC


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