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so basically I set mine preflop, plan on making a midraise on river to setup a turn shove, I missclick and get all in for 200BB instead and the villain calls.

Now what's bothering me about this hand (I think stats are irrelevant since it's just 23 hands) is hand reading. When I was playing it, I looked at his raise size (he raised from 4BB to 11BB) and thought he was very strong. I remember thinking AK, AA or KK so I'll set mine and give up if I miss. When he makes a large flop bet I'm almost sure he's on an overpair and just want to get as much money in as I can without him folding.

Now when I talked the hand over with some other players they pointed out that I should be slowplaying as I probably won't get called on the turn (I wanted to raise so the pot would be around 200BB) with any worse hands.

My question is, if this is an unknown is my play correct or am I always getting called down with only 88 and KQ? How do you range the villain, and can those hands be in his preflop range?

How would you play this hand?

thanks for the help

iPoker - €0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 198 BB (VPIP: 34.78, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 23)
UTG: 84 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (MP): 218 BB
CO: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 8.16, PFR: 4.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
BTN: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 291)
SB: 38.2 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 36)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♠ J♣

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 11 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (23.4 BB, 2 players) J♥ T♣ 9♦
BB bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB

Turn: (57.4 BB, 2 players) 7♣
BB bets 27 BB, Hero raises to 190 BB and is all-in, BB calls 143 BB

River: (397.4 BB, 2 players) K♦

BB shows Q♠ Q♣ (Straight, King High) (Pre 83%, Flop 32%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows J♠ J♣ (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 17%, Flop 68%, Turn 77%)
BB wins 377.4 BB
Hero wins 20 BB


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey NezNanec,

I would raise flop immediately here rather than slowplaying flop.

Turn play is not good because 4-to-straight on board makes it very hard to get called by worse. We are lucky he calls with QQ here. Turn call would be fine here.


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so let's say we call flop and turn, do we then fold vs a river shove? Can you also explain why is a flop raise different from a turn raise? I mean the straight is allready there on the flop and I can't see him showing up with 8x, maybe 88 but I don't think 88 bets the flop that big?

Or do you raise flop and then fold vs a re-raise/shove?

thanks again


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