QQ making FH oop in 3bet pot

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01.11.2014, 19:03 0

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 133.3 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 164 BB
UTG: 217.5 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 198.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♦ Q♠

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, CO raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 3♥ 4♣ 3♠
Hero checks, CO bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (30.5 BB, 2 players) Q♣
Hero checks, CO bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

River: (52.5 BB, 2 players) 5♣
Hero bets 25 BB, CO calls 25 BB

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♦ Q♠ (Full House, Queens full of Threes) (Pre 54%, Flop 71%, Turn 100%)
CO mucks A♥ K♥ (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 46%, Flop 29%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 97.9 BB

preflop: I just call the UTG-raise, and call the squeeze from CO, think raising in both cases would just isolate myself against better or Ak alot
flop: i check to the PFR, and then just call, again see no real value in raising
turn: have second nuts now, decide to check to not chase villain out of pot
when he bets this small again I dont think he ever has AA or KK, since they would bet bigger to get value from Qx and protect against flush
so raising for value does not make real sense
river: decide to valuebet myself cause don't wont villain to check behind ( put him on a small pocketpair or some weird weak Qx maybe
villain calls with AK :facepalm:

would raising on flop or turn made any sense? or would it been better to check river again and let him bluff?

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YohanN7

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01.11.2014, 21:40 0

I don't agree with the principle of targeting an extremely weak holding when you have the nuts. Go for his stack and hope he has AA/KK. Getting his stack 20% of the time is better than getting 11bb (or whatever) every time.

Note too that you don't exactly represent a flush draw here. You represent a pocket pair or maybe two broadways due to the small c-bet from him that you called. That may be the reason for his small turn bet.

That said, it's very likely he is very weak (25% bet on flop, 30% on turn). Still, I would hope I'm dealing with a fish holding AA/KK/44/X3 milking instead of a fish holding air and bluffing and raise turn.

As played, be consistent and let him min-bluff one more time OTR (at which point you raise big).

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mbml

Joined: 27.11.2008

Posts: 20,957

02.11.2014, 10:29 0

PF: Backraising is reasonable I think. You are not a huge favourite vs his stacking off range but there's already so much dead money in the pot (15.5bb).

As played, I don't like your line. Just check-raise the Turn and jam the River. If he did bet larger on the Turn, I would c/c T and c/r R. but since he bets small on the Turn, I think he will often have a midpair (JJ/TT) which is betting for a cheap showdown.

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